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This verbose and on again off again trader has been asked 
to elaborate on this recent quote.  The questioner won't be identified to 
protect him from the potential humiliation such a question might elicit.  

THE QUESTION:
"The bottom is a blown up part of the top"
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THE ANSWER:
The question does not explicitly refer to markets, but given 
that this yahoogroup is a trading group an answer will be framed within that 
context of price behavior.  Such as it is then, the picturesque words 
"blown up" imply not just any bottom, but a significant bottom that traders lust 
after for the potential rewards that come from playing it hard on the long 
side.  For surely a market that has treated a trader badly on the downside 
certainly deserves its come upance on the upside with a max margin play.  
Bottoms of this nature only come along once or twice in a lifetime and their 
presence leaves graphic evidence on historical charts and unforgettable memories 
that many dream of, few participate in, and many remain frozen 
until the next top.  One requirement to participate i and reap the rewards 
of latter conversation is that your age be sufficient to live long enough to 
tell your grandchildren how it was in the crash of 2001.  Before a bottom 
can be defined, a top must be defined for day one of trading history cannot 
truly be defined as a bottom or top but in essence, the big bang that started it 
all in an ever expanding proliferation of inked paper certificates.  And 
therein lies part of the problem, paper representing value, substance is 
replaced by I.O.U promises and questionable valuations whose basis is generated 
from psychological factors of greed battling fear.  In addition to the 
greed and fear determinant of the distance from top to bottom there is the 
governmental force that derives parasitic revenue from seeing that the tops 
keep rising intermittantly between periods of forced withdrawals.  For if 
the tops kept dropping, the masses would not be lulled into playing the game 
with disposable, or even nondisposable income and liquidity for corporation 
founding would suffer.  Thus we have the somewhat variable cycle of tops 
and bottoms such that it isn't obvious who or what is in control of the 
scheme.  Perhaps no one is at any one time and trends are random 
fractals in different time frames.  The tops are identified by massive 
numbers of IPO's, extravagant valuations, sky high PE ratios, and the belief 
that markets only move upward.  Each top has its new genertion of suckers 
and a smaller number of those who have learned to hang on to their wealth and 
trade right.  Thus, we have the intial big bang that has now become an 
outlet for keeping hands out of the idle state and into the motion of buying and 
selling.  The addiction of making money from a simple strike of the 
keyboard is a hard one to break.  It increases and increases until the 
highway patrolman says stop.  Then come the aftershocks of the initial big 
bang.  PE's are blown out of unreality and put back on a course to reality, 
sometimes with blinding speed, i.e. faster than a keystroke, faster than an 
utterance of Sell into a jammed broadband network.  Layoffs 
accelerate.  Earnings fall, prices fall, price charts now manifest the ski 
slope architecture.  Certificates are used as confetti for the parade 
of men to the White House who influence the levels of tops and 
bottoms.  Forever after the periods of euphoria and depression are 
here to stay as it is guaranteed in to be in the trading realm.  So we must 
have a begining, rising expectations,then a top, followed by a bottom which may 
be higher or lower than the beginning price.  The bottom is a part of 
a blownup top because not all sectors of the blowup traverse the path to the 
bottom.  Some remain at the top and others rise to the top while the 
majority head for bookvalue, as the growthrate premium has been stripped from 
the valuation.  The irrational behaviour that typically biases traditional 
asset pricing and valuation models in normal times is reduced to a minimum at 
bottoms.  Now when the momentum of tons of paper hit the sidewalks of 
WallStreet there is an earthquake felt round the globe.  Such shocks and 
aftershocks are measureable like price hitting support and bouncing in a 
cascading price/time series of Gann, Elliot and Fibonacci 
concepualizations.  A more recent creation for this monitoring might be the 
Danton Shockwave, although few speak of it.  Thus ends the answer to the 
question.






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