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Michael,
Ala finding wave 2's, there is a tool called XTL (Expert Trend 
Locator) that attempts to get a trader in "early on a wave 3". I 
admittedly have not used it very much, because extreme patience is needed to 
wait for them, and if you miss it, the ideal spot to enter the trade may have 
been missed (but there are always retracements I guess). I turned it on and you 
will notice the bars turned red early in this down move (blue in up moves). You 
exit the trade using the regression channels (not shown) or the 6/4 ma channels 
(two gray lines) and re-enter after wave 4 on what they call a continuation XTL 
trade. There is a search function that will scan all charts in all time frames 
to find them automatically each day IF you run the search, discipline, 
discipline, discipline . . .it all comes down to that?
don ewers
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  Ferguson 
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  Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 12:06 
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  Subject: Re: [RT] Fibonnaci
  
  Good post. I confuse myself with the wave counts 
  lots of times. One thing I see is that it is dangerous to sell if I see a 
  clear pattern of 5 down of any degree. Also, 3 down. these are bear traps. 
  These patterns set up in every time frame. The thing that I find confusing is 
  that a 2 of one degree can be a 4 of another degree. 
   
  Coincidentally I don't do well with deeply nested 
  math expressions either. I suspect that folks who are great at one are great 
  at the other also, there is contextual similarity. 
   
   
  I keep wishing that DTN could broadcast a 
  flag for every 2, and we could just fade 'em all. Sorting out the price cycles 
  in the time frame we trade goes a long ways to reducing whipsaws, and gives 
  most favorable trade status.
   
  Any expert advice on spotting 2s, or better, 1s, 
  tactically in real time?
   
  Michael
   
   
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    Don 
    Ewers 
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    Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 
    11:48
    Subject: Re: [RT] Fibonnaci
    
    Me too at times, Jimmy. 
     
    EW is just a broad general roadmap that can be followed, that's 
    all. I t tells you what might be around the corner and using very specific 
    techniques namely a  5/35 oscillator (and a 5/17 and 10/70) to tell you 
    whether a count change is eminent. It attempts to keep you out of trouble 
    and on the right side of the trade. Money  management, discipline and 
    trade size will however really dictate the success of any trader, as we all 
    know.
     
    To answer your question, I have no idea at this point but can detail 
    some possibilities. I do think this is an  important trading point 
    potentially, however.
     
    The way I see it there are several possibilities (not predicting here 
    justlooking at the possibilities)First (a bit bearish) the 5 
    wave sequence to the low is really a larger Wave1 (with a 5 wave 
    sequence) and the ABC correction is a larger Wave 2.Meaning we have 
    started large Wave 3 down (minor 1:3 = minor wave 1 of bigWave 3) and 
    may get a pullback (minor wave 2:3) that will not take out thewave C 
    top.Second (bullish) the 5 wave sequence down is complete and Wave A 
    is reallyWave 1 and Wave B is really Wave 2 and Wave C is really minor 
    wave 1:3, andthe pullback to the trendline is minor wave 2:3 and we are 
    headed up fromhere in which case the wave C high will be exceeded. (It 
    is also possiblewave C will relabel as wave 1 still making this pullback 
    wave 2?)Pick your poison? We will have to let the charts and AG 
    (Alan) tell us thedirection. Bonds might be a clue in the short term, if 
    they continue to move dramatically higher a recession with some teeth in it 
    and most likely a weaker market. It is possible however that both stocks and 
    bonds move in the same direction as opposed to opposite at this point in the 
    economic cycle, as I have mentioned before, so that may not help either? 
    This will be interesting going forward for sure!don ewers
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      Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 
      11:13 AM
      Subject: RE: [RT] Fibonnaci
      
      <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>So what is next per EWT?  Do we now have a wave 3 
      down or is it 1 up or will a B down follow?  I'm lost in 
      
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      size=2>the waves as usual.
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      <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Jimmy
       
      
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        size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Don Ewers 
        [mailto:dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 
        9:09 PMTo: Real TradersSubject: [RT] 
        FibonnaciFor those of you that use fibonnaci 
        extensions (and possibly EW, as I do),an excellent example that it 
        should be "considered" in any trading strategy.Two hits in my 
        book.The attached ABC consolidation off a major December low, 
        was a perfect 1.0times Wave A = Wave C  (added to the depth of 
        Wave B) so far, top was taggedalmost to the tic . . .  then the 
        l"apparent" low on 2-9-01 today ( a .618retracement level off the 
        low to the recent high) . . . this works allot  bythe way . . 
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