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Here's an interesting bullish 
perspective on the bonds.
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Bonds' Crystal Ball: Good Times<SPAN 
class=arial12>By Tony CrescenziChief Bond Market 
Strategist, Miller Tabak & Co., LLC, and CEO of 
Bondtalk.com<SPAN 
class=arial10>Dec 12, 2000 11:20 AM

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The stock market ought to borrow the bond market's crystal ball. Fluctuations 
in the Treasury market accurately predicted many of the past year's economic 
developments, and right now, they're calling for improving growth prospects in 
the months ahead.
Investors who heeded the warnings implied by the yield curve - the 
relationship of short- and long-term Treasury rates - at the start of the year 
now are sitting pretty. Everyone else seems caught in the headlights of a 
changing economy.
Before I go on, let me give you a little primer on the yield curve. For 
simplicity's sake, I'll speak only in terms of U.S. Treasuries. The yield curve 
basically plots the yields of bonds carrying different maturities, usually 
ranging from 3 months to 30 years. It looks something like this:
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Bond investors analyze the difference between yields of short- and 
longer-term securities. The spread between the 2-year note and 30-year bond is 
one commonly used benchmark. Normally, the longer issue should yield more than 
the shorter instrument, producing a positive-sloping yield curve. The reverse 
arrangement, which we currently are experiencing, is called an "inverted yield 
curve."
The shape of the yield curve can mean a variety of things to bond investors, 
but there are two basic ways of looking at it.
First, a positive slope usually indicates the Federal Reserve's monetary 
policy stance is and will likely continue to be friendly toward the markets. 
Since Fed policy influences short-term rates most strongly, they tend to be low 
when Fed rates are falling or being held at a relatively low level. 

At the same time, easy Fed policy promises stronger growth and potentially 
higher inflation in the months and years ahead, so longer rates tend to rise or 
hold steady when the Fed is cutting rates. A steepening yield curve generally 
foreshadows good times for stock investors over a several-quarter horizon.
On the other hand, a negatively sloped yield curve usually indicates that Fed 
policy is unfriendly, with the Fed raising official interest rates to slow the 
economy. This, of course, generally portends a gloomier set of conditions for 
the equity market and the economy.
Perhaps investors should have expected the economic growth spurt of the first 
half of this year would be followed by a deceleration. Certainly, that's what 
the yield curve foretold when it inverted back in January 2000. Many investors 
and analysts dismissed the inversion as related to technical factors, such as 
Uncle Sam's buyback of the national debt. But there were clearly other reasons 
for the inversion that had implications for the markets and the economy.
First of all, the bond market started believing the Fed would have to raise 
rates aggressively to slow the economy. That's exactly what happened -- the Fed 
raised rates one full percentage point over the next four months. In turn, bond 
investors began to believe economic growth would decelerate. It did.
Stock investors took more time to heed the yield curve's message that the Fed 
would put its chokehold on the economy - but not much more time. It's probably 
no coincidence that the Dow Jones industrial average peaked the same month the 
yield curve inverted. The S&P 500 and the Nasdaq peaked just a couple of 
months later, in March.
So what is this crystal ball telling us now?
For starters, note that the yield curve became positively sloped (from 2 
years to 30 years) for the first time since January just this past Friday.
The return to a positive slop has a few implications for the markets and the 
economy. First and foremost, it indicates the markets expect the Fed to start 
working toward economic stimulus. Indeed, the bond market is expecting for the 
Fed to cut rates as early as the end of January.
Second, the bond market believes the economy will regain its footing again 
after a period of weakening.
The rate-cut hope also augurs well for the stock market because lower rates 
typically boost economic growth, thereby boosting corporate earnings. Lower 
rates, of course, also reduce the competition for capital, as investors flee 
lower-yielding interest-rate products and move to stocks, where returns are 
usually much higher.
The increased hope for a friendlier Fed is already helping cyclical 
companies, including basic materials companies such as Dupont, International 
Paper, and Caterpillar. Retailers have also started to gain: Wal-Mart {<A 
href="http://www.cnbc.com/stock/dtq.html?sym=WMT";>WMT} and Sears {<A 
href="http://www.cnbc.com/stock/dtq.html?sym=S";>S}, for example, have been 
grinding upward. All of these companies have one thing in common: hope that the 
Fed will cut rates and thereby invigorate the expansion and boost corporate 
profits.
If these hopes are fulfilled, we will be able to look back and say that the 
yield curve called it. Again.<SPAN 
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
  Dan 
  Harels 
  To: <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 9:18 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Boeing crashes and 
  burns
  Thank you for the added perspective Gitanshu.  It was 
  quite useful.  Stepping back and looking at the big picture is a 
  skill that I need to develop.  I also need to stop trying to pick 
  tops and bottoms and fight trends.Thanks 
  again,Dan>From: "Gitanshu Buch" <<A 
  href="mailto:onwingsofeagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>onwingsofeagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>Reply-To: 
  <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: 
  <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>>Subject: [RT] Re: Boeing crashes and 
  burns>Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:24:32 -0500>>In addition 
  to Earl's response to Dan I have the following perspectives to>offer on 
  the pattern:>>I've taken a rather longer term view of the Boeing 
  cup, see chart.>>Depending on length of congestion (or cup) one 
  chose, one could use A or B>as the valid breakouts, and C or D as the 
  matching handle lows.>>Based on this chart the stock doesn't 
  look damaged goods to me and has only>covered about a third of its 
  potential move up.>>The short handles (2-3 weekly bar pullbacks) 
  did violate the absolute>pivots, not a preferred course of textbook 
  fare.>>The textbook recommends a 7-8% stop loss below the pivot, 
  so hindsight >tells>us one would not be stopped out in either A 
  or B trade, and one would still>be long this - presumably with stops 
  rolled up.>>Oscillators on lesser timeframes (Daily etc) would 
  have one start looking >to>book profits, since divergences are 
  getting pronounced with each>rally/pullback/rally sequence. But then 
  the move is just getting started,>says big 
  picture.>>Trend following methods would have one stay long and 
  even pyramid into>additional positions since most pullbacks are 
  stopping at the 50 day moving>avg, even though the distance between 
  current price and trend-following>support keeps widening with each 
  thrust up (and this increases the>volatility of one's p&l 
  line).>>But these are money-mgt issues specific to the competing 
  and often opposing>indicators, not pattern issues.>>Given 
  the length of the longer congestion (2+ years) I would be 
  very>surprised if BA broke down from here (or at any stage since the 
  breakout).>>The general rule of thumb is, the longer the 
  congestion the better the>"stickiness" of the breakout. The corrolary 
  has to do with the number of>attempts it takes to make the breakout, 
  the more the attempts to break out,>the lesser its chances of success 
  in the short term. This is the >predominant>feature I've noticed 
  in failed breakouts, from INTC to NOK.>>O'Neil also makes the 
  case in his paper / books about "late stage breakouts>typically fail" - 
  but if a company has been around for 25 years, and we're>looking at a 
  breakout in Year 5 or 10 or 15, how can we say this is "late>stage" or 
  mid stage or the fun is just starting?>>There is, therefore, 
  considerable latitude to the person visualizing 
  the>breakout.>>What has happened in the recent past is 
  that the post-breakout % or $$ move>has all been captured by a very few 
  bars relative to the time it took to>make the length of the cup - 
  examples that come to mind are LEH and JPM ->and MRK. So if one wasn't 
  stalking the stocks and if one didn't have >resting>buy-stops in 
  place before the breakout, one would reasonably have stood>aside 
  waiting for the pullback to pivot that never happened.>>In other 
  cases, the thrust from the handle has been rather slow (eg - PEP,>BUD) 
  and/or the pullback to pivot has in fact violated the pivot - 
  leading>one to either abandon the pattern in favor of faster moving 
  stocks or in>favor of disbelief in the pattern.>>Must be 
  the nature of the varied popularity of the pattern or the>desperateness 
  of hot money finding relatively cold blooded momentum, but 
  >I'm>just guessing.>>I don't know if this pattern 
  can be made into a scientific cause-effect>relationship since it gets 
  applied to underlying securities across the>spectrum of fundamental 
  influences in the stocks/industries that make 
  the>breakouts.>>Bottomline is that if something is 
  defying gravity and making it into the>New High list with volume to 
  back it up, it "should" go up.>>The element of surprise is 
  therefore in its failure to go up, and should be>allocated "sit up and 
  take notice" status - and for the early bird, maybe a>fade the breakout 
  trade.>>It is to be assumed that everybody that trades this 
  pattern, knows both the>preferred way and the surprised way - and does 
  something about it. This>probably results in noise at the breakout 
  pivot level as competing>influences duke it out to create - for 
  examples - the pullback below pivot>(stops out the purists), the handle 
  on not falling volume (purists chicken>out), the lack of handle but the 
  confirmed takeoff (purists never get in) ->and other variants - to 
  which my response has been to combine underlying>positions with options 
  to define my risk & time commitment rather than to>widen the stop 
  loss to accomodate market noise.>>There is also the magnitude of 
  the daily trading ranges - on a % basis, the>daily trade in a BRCM may 
  replicate that of BA but the financial impact and>the trading games 
  people play with both are not really comparable even>though both may 
  sport the same picture. BRCM may be under-owned, BA may be>over-owned. 
  BA's chart will act thicker than BRCM. BRCM may fall 50% from>its high 
  to the depth of the cup, but it is a $140 move while BA falls 
  >"only>$30" yet it is the same 50% off the $60 
  high.>>In reading the literature, I believe the pattern was 
  meant to isolate the>"growth stocks + growth co's" of any new bull leg. 
  Growth, I believe, was>fundamental, the explosion of consecutive 
  earnings and revenue numbers >being>mispriced into the market as 
  the cup formed and then the market reaching >the>point of 
  recognition where supply supposedly evaporates and demand kicks in>big 
  time, creating the breakout, and then the follow-through as 
  demand>consistently crowds out the supply. thus bidding up 
  prices.>>We the trader have taken the concept and applied it 
  across the board to>everything that congests and explodes even though 
  the underlying business>grows 5% a year in a universe meant to isolate 
  those businesses that grow>125% - usually when nothing in the growth 
  complex is setting up the picture>but we are very comfortable trading 
  the picture so we might as well find a>market for our skills. This 
  mass-scale misuse probably creates its own>impact on the resultant 
  chart patterns.>>Everything tends to "grow" at some point in the 
  cycle - recently we had >tons>of utilities and bonds breaking 
  out, before that the foods & beverages >broke>out, before 
  which the drugs broke out, all while tech was getting 
  slammed.>>Meantime, tech continues to sport the best % 
  consecutive fundamental growth>while everything else is - as they say - 
  "for a trade".>>If there is a science to this, then it must be 
  in identifying that group>rotation from the composite of the new highs 
  that exhibit these patterns ->and extrapolating that identification 
  into where the stock market is voting>regarding the state of the 
  current phase of the economic cycle -- possibly>with a six-ten month 
  future horizon.>>Thus, one would understand that early expansion 
  companies like home>builders, mortgage finance lenders/consolidators, 
  most regional banks &>savings/loans, restaurants, and specialty 
  retailers make up the current>list. Every one of these companies 
  benefits from a POTENTIAL drop in>interest rates. Meantime, the  
  recession type stocks drug/food stocks are >in>decline, 
  coincident with the rise in the Fannie Maes and the Mellons and 
  >the>Brinkers - this pattern seems to indicate that the market 
  projects a lack >of>recession a few months out, and the market 
  would be surprised if this were>otherwise. Just the way history would 
  have behaved, only the players are>different.>>One would 
  note that the "growth" phrase is missing from the above - after>all, 
  who would expect a Fannie Mae to do well when one sees a TV 
  headline>blaring "Lowes warning of lower sales due to slow down in 
  housing starts" >or>something like that.>>But for 
  most of the stocks that make up the non-growth group, these are>better 
  bought at the bottom of the cup than at the top - of course,>blasphemy 
  to the breakout buyer and common sense to the value-conscious>buyer - 
  but the bulk of the %age gains come from the ride up the right side>of 
  the cup, and not from the subsequent breakout.>>Then there is 
  the element of churn & psychology. For every JPM or LEH that>took 
  off, there were 2 and even 3 that didn't. Going into the trade, how 
  >was>one to "know" that correct pick? Also, if one took each 
  trade as it came up>and then robotically churned the account due to 
  frequent stop outs or lack>of brutal takeoffs, where would one find the 
  psychology to ride the one >that>really took off after some 
  initial sluggishness?>>Finally, where one gets a 10% up move in 
  one day, why would one have>patience to ride up 10% in 2 
  months?>>Are all questions that I thought about along the 
  various journeys up >CANSLIM>trees.>>It has been a 
  fascinating bunch of questions that sprung up as the pattern>became 
  more familiar to me... and at the end of it all, for me it boils 
  >down>to applying it to what it was meant for and staying in 
  cash when nothing>that it was meant for sets up, else being aware of 
  the deviation from the>norm and expecting less perfect responses from 
  the chart.>>Gitanshu><< BA.gif 
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