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Re: [RT] Re: Trading Events



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Dom
Original Message -----
From: "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 8:32 PM
Subject: [RT] Re: Trading Events


> Ira,
> Can you enlighten us with an example, since I only trade, "what are billed
> as major event s" from the "news reversal trading technique". Obviously
your
> expertise utilizing options would be a welcome trading technique that we
may
> be able to learn from. I normally go flat ahead of these events feeling it
> is gambling in lieu of trading, so I am anxious to hear your reply.
> don ewers
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ira Tunik" <ist@xxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Dow
>
>
> > If one is just trading the underlying, then a cardinal rule should be to
> be out
> > of the markets when major announcements are to be made. If you know how
to
> > utilize options in volatility positions that are non directional, then
you
> put
> > on these positions just before announcements are made and trade the
> volatile
> > swings with glee.  The bonds are a classic example of where this works
> > wonderfully. There is sufficient liquidity in both the options and
> underlying
> > bonds to allow one to trade some of the huge swings the bonds are know
to
> make.
> > Ira.
> >
> > Don Ewers wrote:
> >
> > > Dom, all-,
> > > True, but one should not neglect events that "make the charts",
meaning
> > > sometimes charts say one thing and an event and the price reaction to
> it,
> > > makes the chart say quite another and therefore a different story
> unfolds.
> > > We need to be flexible enough in our trading to accommodate this.
Charts
> > > rule until they fail, one good reason depending on your trading
> timeframe to
> > > avoid major events that have been built up to be market movers. It is
OK
> to
> > > stand aside at times and let the story be told?
> > > don ewers
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dom Perrino" <domenick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 9:46 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Dow
> > >
> > > > My belief is that technical analysis already reflects ALL,that is
> known
> > > > about a stock including all fundamental factors. I believe that is
the
> > > > standard belief of technicians. It seems that is what you are also
> saying.
> > > > My original email to Bob may have been ambiguous.
> > > > Dom                                     ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ira Tunik" <ist@xxxxxx>
> > > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Dow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Those factors would all have been factored in before you selected
> the
> > > > stock to
> > > > > trade.  They would be terrible if you were looking for a short in
a
> down
> > > > market
> > > > > and they would be wonderful if you were looking for a stock to
trade
> in
> > > an
> > > > up
> > > > > market.  After the selection, you would trade it technically.  Ira
> > > > >
> > > > > Dom Perrino wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bob,
> > > > > > In your opinion,what would you consider key differences between
a
> > > > technician
> > > > > > and a fundamentalist ( like yourself ) if both let the market
tape
> > > call
> > > > the
> > > > > > shots on a day to day basis, and, as you well put it, keeping
the
> > > > account
> > > > > > healthy.
> > > > > > It would seem to me that the technician would have an easier job
> since
> > > > on a
> > > > > > short term basis p/e, book value,sales, balance sheet, current
> ratio
> > > > > > etc.would not need to be factored into the trade .
> > > > > > Dom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Bob" <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:21 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Dow
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > An elitist?  I hope not and I certainly hope that you detect a
> man
> > > who
> > > > > > > doesn't send insulting comments about someone he knows nothing
> > > about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As to the content of my mail, I was trying to state that as
long
> as
> > > > > > > liquidity and beta are the principal drivers of the nas while
> value
> > > > and
> > > > > > > common sense take a back seat, all gains should be viewed as
> > > temporary
> > > > and
> > > > > > > unsustainable.  As to "burning flesh", I don't care which way
> this
> > > > market
> > > > > > > goes as long as it goes .. I let the market tell me what to do
> on a
> > > > day to
> > > > > > > day basis and I don't fight the tape.  My account is healthy
..
> I
> > > hope
> > > > > > > yours is as well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 03:35 AM 12/6/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >Bob,
> > > > > > > >      I've been a student/investor for many years.  Sounds to
> me
> > > like
> > > > > > you've
> > > > > > > >become "insulted" that the mob out there doesn't have your
> > > > intelligence
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >prescience.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >      Do I detect the burning flesh of an elitist?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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