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Thanks for your comments Ira
Ashok
----- Original Message -----
From: Ira Tunik <ist@xxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: While the judges decide...on track
> It doesn't matter who wins. The market will do what it is going to do.
There
> will be an immediate reaction to the results and then the market will
continue
> on its course. There has never been an event in history that has impacted
the
> market for more then a day or two. A rule of mine when trading is to
never read
> the paper, listen to the news or be influenced by out side sources.
Everything
> is right there on the charts. The people who really know are committing
their
> money. That is the only thing that really counts. If price moves that is
the
> end result. It has been the same throughout time. Money talks and BS
walks.
> Ira
>
> Ashok Garg wrote:
>
> > Prosper,
> >
> > Thanks for your interesting correlation with the Gore ve Stocks and
Bonds vs
> > Bush.
> >
> > I am new to the post and new to the markets as well. From your post Do I
> > infer that Gore victory would push Stocks up and Bonds down, and Gore
> > victory would push Bonds up and Stocks down. That would be a short /
medium
> > term out look. Long term they sort of go together?
> >
> > Can you please elaborate please
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ashok
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Prosper <brente@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 1:02 PM
> > Subject: [RT] Re: While the judges decide...on track
> >
> > > Tony if you will notice, every post I post is about trading.
> > > Including this one.
> > >
> > > I personally invite reasonable and informed points of view like
> > > yours. I am pleased that we enjoy the freedom to post our point of
> > > views here. At the present time most analysts would agree that the
> > > US election is effecting the markets. So a post about it is on topic.
> > > I have heard that the bonds are pro Bush and stocks pro Gore. The
> > > bounce in bonds today seems not to agree with that, but perhaps I
> > > just don't understand the subtleties. Many things effect the markets
> > > politics is just one of them. For example, if it weren't for the
> > > invention and development of the PC I doubt we would have any bull
> > > now.
> > >
> > > I have no hatred for Canada, England, or any other Country. I
> > > wouldn't want manipulation or corruption of Canada's election process
> > > any more that I would want it here. I know that there is no such
> > > thing as a fault free election. That's why there are laws governing
> > > the elections and that's the reason that machines are used. They
> > > don't care who wins. Two machine counts were done and Bush won both.
> > > The laws of Florida had been followed, up until this recent turn of
> > > events. The justices could have affirmed the laws on the books and
> > > put an end to this. To allow interpretation and manipulation by
> > > biased parties would destroy the election process in any country.
> > >
> > > BTW I trade the Canadian Dollar and right now we are getting a short
> > > term bounce and it could rally to at least .6550 if it covers 2
> > > recent gaps.
> > >
> > > Prosper
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anyhow, we're all entitled to our opinions. But the message I
> > > wanted to send before I digressed was "can't we get this forum back
> > > on track"?
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tony Pylypuk [mailto:tpylypuk@x...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 5:29 PM
> > > > To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: While the judges decide...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the thread entitled 'while the judges decide'.
> > > >
> > > > First, aren't the passions really off-topic?
> > > >
> > > > Second, I can't resist either.
> > > >
> > > > For the most part even from Canada I mostly understand the
> > > passion for
> > > > 'meat, guns, dams, electricity, oil, gas, chain saws,
> > > ownership, kids,
> > > > Christians, whites and paychecks'.
> > > >
> > > > What I don't understand is the logic that democrats are bad for
> > > free
> > > > enterprise or the American way of life.
> > > >
> > > > In November '92 y'all in those United States of America elected
> > > a democrat.
> > > >
> > > > As of 12/31/92 INDU was at 3,301, NASDAQ was at 776.
> > > >
> > > > Today INDU is at 10,399 and NASDAQ is at 2,755.
> > > >
> > > > I make the increases between 12/31/92 and now to be 215% and
> > > 255%,
> > > > respectively.
> > > >
> > > > So why if the markets are a leading indicator, are democrats so
> > > bad for the
> > > > market?
> > > >
> > > > If on the other hand, one subscribes to the theory that the
> > > market does what
> > > > it does in its own time and that the coincidence of the
> > > prosperity of the
> > > > last 8 years and the democratic presidency is just that - a
> > > coincidence -
> > > > then since we are now in a bear market, wouldn't it be prudent
> > > to have the
> > > > democrats in power so that Keynesian economics (i.e., spend
> > > more in times of
> > > > want from taxes taken in times of plenty) may be employed to
> > > cushion the
> > > > social and economic effects of a recession rather than giving
> > > the wealth to
> > > > that segment of society which can best weather the storm and
> > > letting the
> > > > rest of America be damned.
> > > >
> > > > Anyhow can we get back to the purpose of this forum?
> > > >
> > > > Please and thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Canada's murder rate is about 1/10th of America's.
> > > Firearms are
> > > > controlled and handguns are largely prohibited. But we don't
> > > want to go
> > > > there on the RealTraders forum.
> > > >
> > > > Regards.
> > > >
> > > > P.P.S. I have read the decision of the Florida Supreme Court.
> > > It is
> > > > cogently and convincingly reasoned. I anticipate that the U.S.
> > > Supreme
> > > > Court will concur, unless it too is politicized.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Prosper " <brente@xxxx>
> > > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: November 22, 2000 9:36 AM
> > > > Subject: [RT] Re: While the judges decide...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >From here it looks like a shoulder is getting broken this
> > > morning in
> > > > > the Bonds. It's holding the channel like water in a pipe. I
> > > was so
> > > > > ticked at the judges I had to take a xanax to go to sleep.
> > > It's
> > > > > utterly incomprehensilbe to me how they could throw the door
> > > open so
> > > > > that every election from here on will be a sham. If ones vote
> > > means
> > > > > nothing you've no representation, no freedom. A truly sad day
> > > from
> > > > > here in the States. Well, they say it has to get worse before
> > > it gets
> > > > > better. Lets see now, if the demos get all they want we get
> > > no meat,
> > > > > no guns, no dams electricity oil or gas, no chain saws, no
> > > ownership,
> > > > > no kids, no Christians, no whites, no paycheck(it goes to the
> > > > > goverment). Sounds like paradise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prosper
> > > > > Oh I almost forgot, they want this paradise for the whole
> > > world:)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx, "t-bondtrader" <t-
> > > bondtrader@xxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Stig
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While the judges are deciding and the Americans have their
> > > sweet
> > > > > dreams or nightmares, I thought you might like to view the
> > > attached
> > > > > and see if you agree that the picture you are looking at
> > > reflects
> > > > > what the reality might be....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you think>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Eykyn
> > > > > > PS I missed marking the continuation DS on the bonds...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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