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Re: [RT] patterns and systems



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To be sure one must be careful when using 
patterns.  However, as noted in Bulkowski's "Encyclopedia of Chart 
Patterns" there are patterns that are quite reliable.  Interestingly, they 
are not the "exotic" ones (e.g., cup with handle), but rather the old 
standard chart formations (e.g., falling wedges, etc.).
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
  Ira Tunik 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:56 
  PM
  Subject: [RT] patterns and systems
  I have read a lot about patterns lately in this 
  group.  The cup andhandle  has come up a great deal of 
  late.  The bad thing about thesepatterns, whether it be cup and 
  handle, head and shoulders, pennants,flags or any of the other myriad of 
  formations is that they don't workconsistently enough to base a trade 
  upon.  You are always guessing andunder many market conditions these 
  guesses are incorrect.There are other systems using cross overs as in 
  stochastics, William's%R, MACD, and moving averages.  I have not 
  found them to be more the 30%accurate.  This is not a good percentage 
  for a trader.  For an investor,who has a great deal of time to let 
  the profits on the good trades runand is scrupulous about his stops, this 
  can be a profitable percentage.I met a fund manager who was making a 30% 
  annualized return with a 38%win percentage.There is 
  seasonality.  Look at the Moore Report and analyze 
  theirresults.  For taking trades based upon past history their record 
  is farfrom exemplary.  There are classic methods such as Gann, Eliot, 
  andmethods put forth by Hurst, and Steidlmayer.  There are books 
  on  "Howto Chart Your Way to Stock Market Profits" and "Winning 
  Market Systems,83 Ways to Beat the Market" as well as numerous books on 
  Candlesticks,astrology, delta timing points and point and figure 
  charts.With all of these systems, indicators and books, there are 
  still veryfew really successful traders.  It is the trader that 
  executes the planor system that makes it profitable.  Whatever system 
  you use, whatevergroup of indicators or fundamentals you apply,  it 
  is still up to you,the trader, to form a plan of action and execute that 
  plan.  The cup andhandle may have failed, but from what I read, the 
  trader didn't.  Heexecuted his plan and extricated himself from the 
  trade.  He may lookback at the trade, analyze what he did and ask 
  himself, " What could Ihave added to the system to avoid this type of 
  mistake?".  There aredozens of questions you ask yourself after every 
  trade, successful orunsuccessful.  It is these questions that 
  strengthen your trading methodand help you avoid making the same mistake 
  twice.  It all comes down to"Make a plan and then follow that 
  plan".  Always have the predeterminedrisk.   Good trading 
  and a good week.  Ira.To 
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