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(#2000-552) - Topics This Issue:
1) [RT] Fidelity Brokerage - Warning
2) [RT] Soro's
3) OPTN
4) [RT] Re: Market - OEX
5) Gen: Metastock to Excel Conversion Utility
6) [RT] re: OPTN
7) [RT] Re: Market - OEX
8) [RT] Re: Market - OEX
9) [RT] Re: Market - OEX
10) [RT] re: OPTN
11) [RT] Fut: option intraday quotes?
12) [RT] re: OPTN
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Hello Earl,
I suggest you go to the following website and file a complaint:
http://www.sec.gov/consumer/reachus.htm .
you wrote:
> We received quite a number of recommendations to use Fidelity Brokerage.
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Namaste',
Mark
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They are not really very active any one market anymore.
They have scaled back their operation materially and only
have modest holdings in any one market. You should also
know that anytime a market has a big move there is an
immediate rumor relating to some hedge fund being damaged.
George is about the only marquee name left to start rumor
about.
Michael Knapp wrote:
> RT, I hope this isn't too much off topic, but I have been
> hearing rumors of Soro's being in trouble. Anybody wanna
> share anything they may have heard. I hear the US has
> been buying euro dollar futures to help prop him up.
> Seems a little ridiculous to me, but stranger things have
> happened. There is a big Chinese firm that filed for
> bankruptcy in China over night. The implications of that
> could be pretty impressive since communist countries dont
> normally let companies go belly up. Any body care to
> chime in? Michael Knapp
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They are not really very active any one market anymore. They have
scaled back their operation materially and only have modest holdings in
any one market. You should also know that anytime a market has a
big move there is an immediate rumor relating to some hedge fund being
damaged. George is about the only marquee name left to start rumor
about.
<P>Michael Knapp wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>RT,</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>I
hope this isn't too much off topic, but I have been hearing rumors of Soro's
being in trouble. Anybody wanna share anything they may have heard.
I hear the US has been buying euro dollar futures to help prop him up.
Seems a little ridiculous to me, but stranger things have happened.
There is a big Chinese firm that filed for bankruptcy in China over night.
The implications of that could be pretty impressive since communist countries
dont normally let companies go belly up. Any body care to chime in?</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Michael
Knapp</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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In case any of you read Barrons I wrote "The Striking Price" column this
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Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Market - OEX
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ND is limit down. Will this suck in buyers like 09/22?
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Earl Adamy=20
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:21 AM
Subject: [RT] Re: Market - OEX
We completed a clear h&s top on the 1 minute which was started late =
yesterday. Looking for a bounce/bottom today around 1453 basis Dec spoo =
without a higher high - this is the 62% retracement of the rally and the =
100% h&s top projection. In other words an inside day closing closer to =
the top of yesterday's range than the bottom.=20
Earl
----- Original Message -----=20
From: DonThompson=20
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 9:29 AM
Subject: [RT] Re: Market - OEX
Bob,
According to my Stat work, given we have a down open there is only:
40% chance of getting a higher close. The up closers in this set =
don't make a lower low but 60% chance have a higher high. The down =
closers have 40% chance of a Lower Low and a 60% chance of a higher =
close.
So, there is a fair chance of making a higher high. Although the =
futures are being sold fairly heavily.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ND is limit down. Will this suck in =
buyers like=20
09/22?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx"; title=3Deadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>Earl =
Adamy</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
title=3Drealtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 29, =
2000 11:21=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Market - =
OEX</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We completed a clear h&s top on the 1 minute =
which was=20
started late yesterday. Looking for a bounce/bottom today around 1453 =
basis=20
Dec spoo without a higher high - this is the 62% retracement of the =
rally and=20
the 100% h&s top projection. In other words an inside day closing =
closer=20
to the top of yesterday's range than the bottom. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:detomps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
title=3Ddetomps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>DonThompson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
title=3Drealtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 29, =
2000 9:29=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Market - =
OEX</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>According to my Stat work, =
given we have=20
a down open there is only:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>40% chance of getting a higher =
close. =20
T</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>he up closers in this set =
don't make a=20
lower low but 60% chance have a higher high. The down closers =
have 40%=20
chance of a Lower Low and a 60% chance of a higher =
close.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>So, there is a fair chance of making a higher high. =
Although the=20
futures are being sold fairly heavily.</DIV></FONT></DIV>
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Subject: Gen: Metastock to Excel Conversion Utility
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Realtraders,
Several months ago a fellow RT member contacted me regarding a software
program he was designing, (and selling), that would assist in the
conversion of Metastock data into an Excel worksheet. As you know, we
generally prohibit self promotional advertising in this Forum, but based on
past member interest in such a utility, I have decided to forward it to you
(see below).
Finally, if you are interested in this program, please contact the
creator directly:
Thomas Pfluegl: address thomas.pfluegl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and refrain from using the Forum unless absolutely necessary.
Thank you,
John Boggio - RT Moderator
PS I have no incentive or affiliation with Mr. Pfluegl or his product
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Subject:
GEN: MetaLibrary - convert MetaStock data quickly into Excel
My programmer developed a nice peace of code, perfect for traders who have
to deal with the popular MetaStock format and want to convert the data
quickly into Excel. Stock data (Date, Open, High, Low, Close) of 2000
trading days (around 3000 calendar days, i. e. more than 8 years) are
converted and pasted into Excel within 9 seconds.
(Win98, MSOffice 97 Prof. SR-2, Pentium II 350, 128 MB RAM).
As Excel is mentioned a lot in the posts this might be an interesting tool
for some traders.
See download section at http://keplerweb.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at/trading.
You will find
- a link to the MetaLibrary Website and
- MetaLib-Tools.xls (zipped), which is an Excel spreadsheet where I
implemented the major features of the MetaLibrary. I will continuously
update this workbook with new examples.
Regards,
Thomas Pfluegl
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<font size=3>Realtraders,<br>
<br>
Several months ago a fellow RT member contacted me regarding a
software program he was designing, (and selling), that would assist in
the conversion of Metastock data into an Excel worksheet. As you
know, we generally prohibit self promotional advertising in this Forum,
but based on past member interest in such a utility, I have decided to
forward it to you (see below).<br>
<br>
Finally, if you are interested in this program, please contact the
creator directly:<br>
<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>Thomas
Pfluegl: address
thomas.pfluegl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
<br>
and refrain from using the Forum unless absolutely
necessary.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
John Boggio - RT Moderator<br>
PS I have no incentive or affiliation with Mr. Pfluegl or his
product<br>
<br>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
Subject:<br>
<br>
GEN: MetaLibrary - convert MetaStock data quickly into Excel<br>
<br>
My programmer developed a nice peace of code, perfect for traders who
have to deal with the popular MetaStock format and want to convert the
data quickly into Excel. Stock data (Date, Open, High, Low, Close) of
2000 trading days (around 3000 calendar days, i. e. more than 8 years)
are converted and pasted into Excel within 9 seconds. <br>
(Win98, MSOffice 97 Prof. SR-2, Pentium II 350, 128 MB RAM).<br>
<br>
As Excel is mentioned a lot in the posts this might be an interesting
tool for some traders. <br>
See download section at
</font><u>http://keplerweb.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at/trading</font></u><font size=3>.<br>
<br>
You will find <br>
- a link to the MetaLibrary Website and <br>
- MetaLib-Tools.xls (zipped), which is an Excel spreadsheet where I
implemented the major features of the MetaLibrary. I will continuously
update this workbook with new examples.<br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
Thomas Pfluegl<br>
<br>
</font></html>
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Years back there was a type of option that institutions used to hedge =
until the end of a quarter rather than the third thursday of the month. =
Can't remember the name of them. Are they still in use?
thanks,
br
----- Original Message -----=20
From: The DOCTOR=20
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:14 AM
Subject: [RT] re: OPTN
In case any of you read Barrons I wrote "The Striking Price" column =
this week.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Years back there was a type of option =
that=20
institutions used to hedge until the end of a quarter rather than the =
third=20
thursday of the month. Can't remember the name of them. Are =
they=20
still in use?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>br</FONT></DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=3Ddroex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>The =
DOCTOR</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
title=3Drealtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 29, =
2000 10:14=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] re: OPTN</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>In case any of you read Barrons I wrote "The Striking =
Price"=20
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NASDAQ is 1:12 u/d volume, but a/d issues is only 2:3 - I suspect today =
is selling climax.
Earl
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Ferguson=20
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:23 AM
Subject: [RT] Re: Market - OEX
ND is limit down. Will this suck in buyers like 09/22?
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>NASDAQ is 1:12 u/d volume, but a/d issues is only =
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suspect today is selling climax.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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title=3Drealtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
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Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Market - OEX
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:08:20 -0400
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I think the S&P futures are under accumulation this afternoon, even =
though they are lower on the day.
Still have to wait til EOD to figure it out.
Don
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Earl Adamy=20
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 2:52 PM
Subject: [RT] Re: Market - OEX
NASDAQ is 1:12 u/d volume, but a/d issues is only 2:3 - I suspect =
today is selling climax.
Earl
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Ferguson=20
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:23 AM
Subject: [RT] Re: Market - OEX
ND is limit down. Will this suck in buyers like 09/22?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think the S&P futures are under =
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this afternoon, even though they are lower on the =
day.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still have to wait til EOD to figure it =
out.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx"; title=3Deadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>Earl =
Adamy</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 29, =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Market - =
OEX</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>NASDAQ is 1:12 u/d volume, but a/d issues is only =
2:3 - I=20
suspect today is selling climax.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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2000 11:23=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Market - =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ND is limit down. Will this suck in =
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Does anyone have daily TRIN data for the NASDAQ that they can post? Since
Earl mentioned that the ratio is currently running at 8.0, I wonder what
values in the past were coincident with market bottoms. I know that on the
NYSE readings over 2.5 were generally good places to buy, but with so much
volume moving to the NASDAQ in recent years, NYSE TRIN has not always
confirmed a bottom during a selloff. It would be nice to compare NYSE and
NASDAQ TRIN readings to see if we can generate some kind of composite reading
that has some usefulness. I would be glad to do it once I have the NASDAQ
data.
Howard Bernstein
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No product I know of "years back" that did that. FLEX
options which are somewhat recent allow you to set any date
(as long as it is not too near the regular expiration). In
SPX there were regular option with and end of quarter
expiration, but they rarely traded... it was simpler just to
buy OCTs to cover the September quarter.
BobR wrote:
> Years back there was a type of option that institutions
> used to hedge until the end of a quarter rather than the
> third thursday of the month. Can't remember the name of
> them. Are they still in use? thanks,br
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: The DOCTOR
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:14 AM
> Subject: [RT] re: OPTN
> In case any of you read Barrons I wrote "The
> Striking Price" column this week.
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No product I know of "years back" that did that. FLEX options which
are somewhat recent allow you to set any date (as long as it is not too
near the regular expiration). In SPX there were regular option with
and end of quarter expiration, but they rarely traded... it was simpler
just to buy OCTs to cover the September quarter.
<P>BobR wrote:
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<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Years
back there was a type of option that institutions used to hedge until the
end of a quarter rather than the third thursday of the month. Can't
remember the name of them. Are they still in use?</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>thanks,</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>br</FONT></FONT>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 29, 2000 10:14
AM</DIV>
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In case any of you read Barrons I wrote "The Striking Price" column
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From: "Jeff Kingery" <taotrader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: [RT] Fut: option intraday quotes?
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:24:14 -0500
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http://www.cme.com/market/prices/index.html
http://www.cbt.com/
http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?e=NYMEX
http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?e=NYBOT
That pretty well covers all the US futures options worth trading... plus
many more not worth trading! :-)
I haven't used any of these sites lately, so I can't vouch for their
timeliness or accuracy.
Cheers,
Jeff Kingery
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:27 AM
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Subject: [RT] Fut: option intraday quotes?
Dear RTs,
Could someone please post some website addresses where I can look up
intraday
S&P option bid / ask prices? Or any futures option INTRADAY prices.
Thank you in advance.
Bill W
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That's it, FLEX options. Those are the ones FNN or CNBC used to =
attribute large moves to on the last trading day of a quarter. =20
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From: The DOCTOR=20
To: BobR=20
Cc: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] re: OPTN
No product I know of "years back" that did that. FLEX options which =
are somewhat recent allow you to set any date (as long as it is not too =
near the regular expiration). In SPX there were regular option with and =
end of quarter expiration, but they rarely traded... it was simpler just =
to buy OCTs to cover the September quarter.=20
BobR wrote:=20
Years back there was a type of option that institutions used to =
hedge until the end of a quarter rather than the third thursday of the =
month. Can't remember the name of them. Are they still in use? =
thanks,br =20
----- Original Message -----
From: The DOCTOR
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:14 AM
Subject: [RT] re: OPTN
In case any of you read Barrons I wrote "The Striking Price" =
column this week.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's it, FLEX options. Those =
are the ones=20
FNN or CNBC used to attribute large moves to on the last trading day of =
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DOCTOR</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 29, =
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OPTN</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>No product I know of "years back" that did that. =
FLEX=20
options which are somewhat recent allow you to set any date (as long =
as it is=20
not too near the regular expiration). In SPX there were regular =
option=20
with and end of quarter expiration, but they rarely traded... it was =
simpler=20
just to buy OCTs to cover the September quarter.=20
<P>BobR wrote:=20
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<STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Years back there was a type of =
option that=20
institutions used to hedge until the end of a quarter rather than =
the third=20
thursday of the month. Can't remember the name of them. =
Are they=20
still in use?</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D-1>thanks,</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D-1>br</FONT></FONT> =20
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<A href=3D"mailto:droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; =
title=3Ddroex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>The=20
DOCTOR</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 29, =
2000=20
10:14 AM</DIV>
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