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At 12:18 AM 7/12/2000 , Kent Rollins wrote:
>Ray
>
>As a discretionary trader, when you hit a string of losers, does it shake
>your confidence and what do you do to get out of it?
>Kent

First I should point out that I almost never day trade. Only if it 
accidentally works out that way (meaning I screwed up). I can't afford day 
trading, I have to feed my family at this and I want to be able to do it 
awhile (I like it). The folks I've known on the CBOE and the CBOT long ago 
convinced me that the flush rate for day traders is way too close to 100% 
for it to make sense for me. But to each his own.

Second, I don't do this for the money. I actually enjoy markets, watching 
them, participating in them, CNBC, hearing you guys banter back and forth 
about almost anything trading related (although there is occasionally a 
believability issue), reading financial publications, etc. etc.. Before I 
had enough capital to trade I did it all just for the fun of it. Now I'm 
thankful that I can do it and get paid.

Sometimes I wonder if that's not a root cause of some of the problems 
people have with trading. They are doing it for the money or the gambling 
thrill  they really don't do it cause they want to or like markets, etc..

Third, I'm not sure how to answer cause I don't know how you define a 
string of losses. And why would anyone tolerate a string of them? Sounds 
like someone's in a hurry or something?

But when I have a loser I have been a lot more comfortable with it now than 
I was when I tried mech trading.

I don't know if I can explain it, but when I've taken losses it's because 
nothing looks or feels right about the position in question. So something 
inside feels more comfortable after I'm out. And now that I know I will 
feel better after I'm out, the whole thing has become almost a non issue. I 
don't recall even bothering to think about it after it's over.

Instead of feeling bad about it I almost feel relief. Believe it or not, 
even those times when the loss whipsawed and would have went to profit if I 
had stayed.

When I tried mechanical trading I would have feelings of confusion and loss 
and an inability to think through what had happened. Cause the loss wasn't 
caused by circumstances which logically made sense to me but instead was 
caused by what some machine told me to do. Instead of being able to think 
to myself that I was going to feel good when it was over I'd think about 
why this crazy gadget was telling me to do this. (IMO)

I try to pray regularly. Not asking for money or anything, just thanking 
God that I get to keep doing this all day every day. That makes me feel 
good too.

Just my way, I'm not claiming that it's best or that it would work for 
anyone else or anything.