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<DIV>Maybe virtually no one leaves the floor, but the trading rate in terms of 
millions of shares per minute definitely dips to about 1.5 million shares per 
minute over the mid day after starting the day around 4 million and ending 
between 3.5 and 4 million.&nbsp; They may not leave the floor, 
but&nbsp;someone's trading is concentrated in the early AM and late PM.&nbsp; 
Some trading decisions are being made in those early and late hours that affect 
volume.</DIV>
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<DIV>BobR</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  The DOCTOR 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 19, 2000 8:58 AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] [Fwd: GEN: Floor Trading 
  Activity]</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp; 
  <P>The DOCTOR wrote: 
  <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">None of this is true.&nbsp; Virtually no one leaves 
    the floor for lunch ... and those <BR>that do are not the senior 
    traders.&nbsp; Upstairs trading desks and hedge funds <BR>either get lunch 
    at their desks. Many of the best trading firms have kitchens in <BR>house 
    just to assure no one leaves.&nbsp; If you stood in front of the CBOE, NYSE 
    or <BR>CME at lunchtime you would see more people on the street than at 
    other times, <BR>but they are no decision makers. 
    <P>Ross Kovacs wrote: 
    <P>&gt; This comment/question was triggered by the previous "Market Outlook" 
    thread <BR>&gt; shown below: <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had always attributed 
    market movements around 11:30 am EST time to floor <BR>&gt; traders trying 
    to put some balance in their positions before they take a <BR>&gt; lunch 
    break.&nbsp; I've never worked on the floor of an exchange, so I would 
    <BR>&gt; appreciate seeing any comments from RTs that have worked on 
    exchanges. <BR>&gt; Assuming floor traders must obey natural human needs 
    (eat sometime during <BR>&gt; the day, go to the restroom, etc.), what 
    impact do these activities have on <BR>&gt; market movements?&nbsp; I can 
    obviously see volume thinning during mid-day, and <BR>&gt; have usually 
    discounted price moves that occur during lunch periods.&nbsp; Are <BR>&gt; 
    their other things that an off-floor trader should be aware during lunch 
    <BR>&gt; periods?&nbsp; The "11:30 am EST time when most European markets 
    close and their <BR>&gt; participation in our day session is ended" effect 
    is a separate event I was <BR>&gt; not aware of.&nbsp; Any other "off-floor" 
    events at this time that can affect <BR>&gt; market movements? <BR>&gt; 
    <BR>&gt; If you are a trader in an open outcry market, how do you 
    reestablish your <BR>&gt; physical position in a trading pit or at a trading 
    post when you've had to <BR>&gt; give in to the demands your body makes 
    during the day? <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Ross Kovacs <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
    rossrk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; In a message dated 6/17/00 9:00:25 
    PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>&gt; wl7bdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: <BR>&gt; 
    <BR>&gt; &lt;&lt; There is a six to eight dollar move around that time 
    almost exactly EVERY <BR>&gt;&nbsp; DAY. In fact a 6 pt move is one of the 
    highest probability and most common <BR>&gt;&nbsp; moves in the contract. 
    Irrespective of the tide tables. <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; <BR>&gt; 
    <BR>&gt; Michael,...Thanks for stating the obvious regarding Norman's 
    "Market <BR>&gt; Outlook".&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Also intraday pivot often 
    occurs around the 11:30 am EST time <BR>&gt; when most European markets 
    close and their participation in our day session <BR>&gt; is ended.&nbsp; 
    Not a big deal. There is much that could be discussed here about <BR>&gt; 
    intraday turning points,..etc., but&nbsp;&nbsp; I think Earl was looking for 
    the <BR>&gt; Market <BR>&gt; Outlook of others,...meaning what to expect 
    over the next days and <BR>&gt; weeks..etc. Thanks again.&nbsp; Regards, JIM 
    P.</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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