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Compared to the crimes of Bill Clinton - Bill Gates is a novice, leave the
guy alone and prosecute the other one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "buff" <bdormeier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 7:30 AM
Subject: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> Are you sure have the right Bill? Sounds like another Bill we know of.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Taylor" <jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 4:10 AM
> Subject: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
>
>
> > some crimes that I am aware of based on articles and stories in the
press:
> > 1) obstruction of justice,
> > 2) perjury
> > 3) numerous anti-trust violations
> > 4) numerous software piracy / copyright law violations
> > 5) dumping
> > 6) price collusion
> > and a long raft of sleazy, unethical, anti-competitive business dealings
> and
> > tactics.
> >
> > and only god knows how many other crimes. given his record, bank
account,
> > and the number of politicians in his pocket, anything is possible.
> >
> > as Larry Ellison said, Gates knowingly broke the law and considered the
> > possible punishment to be less than the gains realized by breaking the
> law.
> > Crime does pay in some cases, at least so far. But I still have some
> hope
> > for this DOJ and the 19 states and now Europe that has had enough of
this
> > pirate and his company.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Warren Goldstein <warren53@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 1:30 AM
> > Subject: [RT] RE: Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> >
> >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > While you're correct that the debt rose dramatically during the Reagan
> > > years, I would just point out, for the record,
> > > that this was primarily due the Democrat-controlled Congress.
> > > I strongly disagree with your view on supply-side economics, but I do
> > agree
> > > with you that all government programs (with the exception of the
> military,
> > > police, and the courts) should be slashed to the bone.
> > > I'm quite curious to hear more about Bill Gates' long list of
committed
> > > crimes.
> > >
> > > Warren Goldstein
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of James Taylor
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:25 AM
> > > To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> > >
> > >
> > > Solutions ? Here's some ideas for starters.
> > >
> > > 1) Expose the Plunge Protection Team and put a stop to it.
> > > Other Clinton criticisms:
> > > Stop the reckless defense spending. Clinton has added an additional
$100
> > > Billion military spending package, the largest spending spree since
the
> > cold
> > > war. He claims it is necessary for "military readiness". The US has
> > > technical weapons 10 times more advanced than any other country, yet
> > insists
> > > we spend more money to further the development of even more advanced
> > > weaponry like suitcase nukes and weapons of mass destruction.
> > > Eliminate the prison industrial complex, putting kids in jail for
> lengthy
> > > jail sentences for minor drug charges is the real crime.
> > >
> > > 2) Greenspan's mistakes will come to full light in due time. Now that
> the
> > > bubble is fully inflated and the lemming populace in debt,
> > > hook-line-and-sinker, the only thing next to happen in the painful
> > > unwinding. The economy has had numerous boom-bust, mania debt
> expansion
> > > cycles, and it seems that every 60 years or so, the history lessons
are
> > > forgotten (or in this case, ignored). The economists of today now
> > > disregard Keynesian economics for what it is/was -- flawed; yet the
> > > government still believes in deficit spending to all new heights.
The
> > > answer to the problem is quit simple -- REDUCE debt, run a balanced
> > budget,
> > > get rid of the massive government spending programs (like tens of
> billions
> > > of new defense spending, foreign hand-outs, pork barrel spending),
> control
> > > the economy by prudent monetary policy (i.e. do not cut rates and
print
> > > money to spur on reckless market bubbles that lead to misallocation of
> > > economic resources and severe downturns.) When an economic down cycle
> > does
> > > occur, the government would be in a position to stimulate the economy
> > > (saving for a rainy day) -- pretending that it will never rain again
is
> > NOT
> > > the answer. Greenspan was/IS the worst Fed chief any president could
> have
> > > hired. He was/is the most pitiful example of a 'yes' man that I have
> ever
> > > seen. To aid the US banks that make trillions in bad foreign loans,
he
> > cuts
> > > rates 24 times and runs the printing presses, and alas, we start the
> asset
> > > bubble's formation. Let the banks that made the bad loans fail. Let
> the
> > > Asian bankers and the hedge funds like LTCM FAIL.
> > >
> > > 3) The government debt skyrocketed during the Reagan/Bush
presidencies.
> > The
> > > debt rose from 940 Billion to 4.18 Trillion, a 450% increase !!!! A
> large
> > > percentage of the money was spent on the cold war military buildup and
> > > frivilous pork belly programs.
> > >
> > > The interest on the Federal Government Debt for 1998 was
> > > $363,823,722,920.26. With just the interest, the US could build
> thousands
> > of
> > > new schools, bridges, hospitals each year.
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~arison/debt.html
> > >
> > > Reagan made the following statement before going on his spending
spree:
> > > "For decades we have piled deficit upon deficit, mortgaging our future
> and
> > > our children's future for the temporary convenience of the present.
To
> > > continue this long trend is to guarantee tremendous social, cultural,
> > > political and economic upheavals." Ronald Reagan, 1981
> > >
> > > The unfortunate thing is, he won't be around to see the social &
> economic
> > > upheavals he was responsible for. We honor the jackass by naming an
> > > airport after him, and the republicans praise him as being one of
their
> > > great leaders. His legacy will be remembered and long lasting, that
is
> > for
> > > sure. Your grandchildren's grandchildren will be paying the interest
on
> > > that debt, could have build a hell of a lot of new schools and bridges
> > with
> > > that money. Let's just use 25% of each tax dollar to pay the interest
> on
> > > the debt. The extreme levels of the national debt require swift
action,
> > cut
> > > programs to the bone, and pay it off. The tax revenues will plunge
when
> > the
> > > economy tanks, now is the time to put the 'windfall' revenues to use;
> and
> > > put a stop the raiding of the social security trust fund, and tell the
> US
> > > citizens the truth, the budget is not balanced and they are spending
> their
> > > social security tax payments.
> > >
> > > 4) We know that supply side economics does not work; a little
research
> > > back then could have avoided the problem. But that is what happens
when
> > you
> > > elect an actor to the White House.
> > > 5) Most successful capitalist ? The long list of crimes the SOB has
> > > committed should be known. Put him in jail and throw away the key;
> how's
> > > that for a solution ? Actually,
> > > give MSFT the largest fine in US history, break-up the company, and
let
> > the
> > > chips fall where they may.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > James Taylor
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Howard Hopkins <hehohop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> > >
> > >
> > > > James,
> > > >
> > > > I've been a RealTrader participant for over a year now.
> > > >
> > > > Your posts are ALWAYS very entertaining. Sometimes very annoying
and
> > > > sometimes thought provoking, but definitely controversial!
> > > >
> > > > >From your posts I know you HATE; 1) the liberal Clinton
> Administration
> > > for
> > > > using the phantom "Plunge Protection Team" for supporting the stock
> > > market;
> > > > 2) Greenspan's failure to shut off economic growth fast enough for
> you;
> > 3)
> > > > the Bush Administration for tax increases and increasing the
National
> > > Debt;
> > > > 4) the Supply Side Reagan Administration tax cuts that gave citizens
> the
> > > > economic choice with their money in a recessionary/inflationary
> economy;
> > > 5)
> > > > and finally you HATE, Bill Gates, the most successful capitalist in
> the
> > > > history of the world.
> > > >
> > > > I live in Washington, DC suburbs and just witnessed the protests and
> > > > demonstrations against the IMF & World Bank(admittedly flawed
> > > organizations
> > > > because they have no fiscal responsibilities). I watched and heard
> from
> > > > today's spoiled 20 somethings about the fight against "Global
> > Capitalism"
> > > > and 'the evils of third world countries manipulating the working
> classes
> > > > with the funds of the wealthy nations'. Luckily, the world's
greatest
> > > > economic power in history (the current United States economy)didn't
> have
> > > to
> > > > struggle through those type of scenarios in the past..... or did
> we????
> > > >
> > > > James, you criticize and bash EVERYONE. How about you propose YOUR
> > Nobel
> > > > winning economic theory that will, at last, solve the question of
how
> to
> > > > 'manipulate or direct' world markets and economies so we have
> > 'reasonable
> > > > non-inflationary growth on the path to Utopia'. Stop the critizism
> and
> > > > JUST GIVE US THE ANSWERS. It sure would make your life less
> frustrating
> > > and
> > > > full of hate while simultaneously solving world problems... please
> just
> > > end
> > > > the suspense and give us the answers!
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Tired of the hearing your bitching, just interested in the answers,
> > > > Howard Hopkins
> > > >
> > > > >From: "James Taylor" <jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Reply-To: jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Subject: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> > > > >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:19:52 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Sounds like someone took a bath on some grossly overpriced MSFT
> stock.
> > > > >As many crimes as Gates has committed, he deserves everything he
gets
> > and
> > > > >more,
> > > > >and so does his shareholders for being so damn clueless.
> > > > >
> > > > >JT
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: Peter <derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 11:33 PM
> > > > >Subject: [RT] MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well given that there are rumours of an impending takeover
> bid
> > by
> > > > >the
> > > > > > US Govt wrt MSFT, it seems logical to buy MSFT right now & get
> > paid
> > > a
> > > > > > hefty premium for MSFT stock. After all thats what a break up is
> all
> > > > >about
> > > > > > isnt it........ a takeover bid.
> > > > > > Seeing as the Govt is the greatest "fool " out there, the
> > greater
> > > > >fool
> > > > > > theory implies that this really is a significant market high.
> > > > > > I just may buy more MSFT stock, afterall no gov't is going
to
> > > screw
> > > > > > middle america with all their debt overhang. If anything Bill
> Gates
> > > > >cant
> > > > > > sleep at nights these day because he's about to get really
> > seriously
> > > > >rich
> > > > > > this time around.
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Peter Karaguleski
> > > > > > Nam Et Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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