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Are you sure have the right Bill? Sounds like another Bill we know of.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Taylor" <jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 4:10 AM
Subject: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> some crimes that I am aware of based on articles and stories in the press:
> 1) obstruction of justice,
> 2) perjury
> 3) numerous anti-trust violations
> 4) numerous software piracy / copyright law violations
> 5) dumping
> 6) price collusion
> and a long raft of sleazy, unethical, anti-competitive business dealings
and
> tactics.
>
> and only god knows how many other crimes. given his record, bank account,
> and the number of politicians in his pocket, anything is possible.
>
> as Larry Ellison said, Gates knowingly broke the law and considered the
> possible punishment to be less than the gains realized by breaking the
law.
> Crime does pay in some cases, at least so far. But I still have some
hope
> for this DOJ and the 19 states and now Europe that has had enough of this
> pirate and his company.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warren Goldstein <warren53@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 1:30 AM
> Subject: [RT] RE: Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
>
>
> > James,
> >
> > While you're correct that the debt rose dramatically during the Reagan
> > years, I would just point out, for the record,
> > that this was primarily due the Democrat-controlled Congress.
> > I strongly disagree with your view on supply-side economics, but I do
> agree
> > with you that all government programs (with the exception of the
military,
> > police, and the courts) should be slashed to the bone.
> > I'm quite curious to hear more about Bill Gates' long list of committed
> > crimes.
> >
> > Warren Goldstein
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of James Taylor
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:25 AM
> > To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> >
> >
> > Solutions ? Here's some ideas for starters.
> >
> > 1) Expose the Plunge Protection Team and put a stop to it.
> > Other Clinton criticisms:
> > Stop the reckless defense spending. Clinton has added an additional $100
> > Billion military spending package, the largest spending spree since the
> cold
> > war. He claims it is necessary for "military readiness". The US has
> > technical weapons 10 times more advanced than any other country, yet
> insists
> > we spend more money to further the development of even more advanced
> > weaponry like suitcase nukes and weapons of mass destruction.
> > Eliminate the prison industrial complex, putting kids in jail for
lengthy
> > jail sentences for minor drug charges is the real crime.
> >
> > 2) Greenspan's mistakes will come to full light in due time. Now that
the
> > bubble is fully inflated and the lemming populace in debt,
> > hook-line-and-sinker, the only thing next to happen in the painful
> > unwinding. The economy has had numerous boom-bust, mania debt
expansion
> > cycles, and it seems that every 60 years or so, the history lessons are
> > forgotten (or in this case, ignored). The economists of today now
> > disregard Keynesian economics for what it is/was -- flawed; yet the
> > government still believes in deficit spending to all new heights. The
> > answer to the problem is quit simple -- REDUCE debt, run a balanced
> budget,
> > get rid of the massive government spending programs (like tens of
billions
> > of new defense spending, foreign hand-outs, pork barrel spending),
control
> > the economy by prudent monetary policy (i.e. do not cut rates and print
> > money to spur on reckless market bubbles that lead to misallocation of
> > economic resources and severe downturns.) When an economic down cycle
> does
> > occur, the government would be in a position to stimulate the economy
> > (saving for a rainy day) -- pretending that it will never rain again is
> NOT
> > the answer. Greenspan was/IS the worst Fed chief any president could
have
> > hired. He was/is the most pitiful example of a 'yes' man that I have
ever
> > seen. To aid the US banks that make trillions in bad foreign loans, he
> cuts
> > rates 24 times and runs the printing presses, and alas, we start the
asset
> > bubble's formation. Let the banks that made the bad loans fail. Let
the
> > Asian bankers and the hedge funds like LTCM FAIL.
> >
> > 3) The government debt skyrocketed during the Reagan/Bush presidencies.
> The
> > debt rose from 940 Billion to 4.18 Trillion, a 450% increase !!!! A
large
> > percentage of the money was spent on the cold war military buildup and
> > frivilous pork belly programs.
> >
> > The interest on the Federal Government Debt for 1998 was
> > $363,823,722,920.26. With just the interest, the US could build
thousands
> of
> > new schools, bridges, hospitals each year.
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~arison/debt.html
> >
> > Reagan made the following statement before going on his spending spree:
> > "For decades we have piled deficit upon deficit, mortgaging our future
and
> > our children's future for the temporary convenience of the present. To
> > continue this long trend is to guarantee tremendous social, cultural,
> > political and economic upheavals." Ronald Reagan, 1981
> >
> > The unfortunate thing is, he won't be around to see the social &
economic
> > upheavals he was responsible for. We honor the jackass by naming an
> > airport after him, and the republicans praise him as being one of their
> > great leaders. His legacy will be remembered and long lasting, that is
> for
> > sure. Your grandchildren's grandchildren will be paying the interest on
> > that debt, could have build a hell of a lot of new schools and bridges
> with
> > that money. Let's just use 25% of each tax dollar to pay the interest
on
> > the debt. The extreme levels of the national debt require swift action,
> cut
> > programs to the bone, and pay it off. The tax revenues will plunge when
> the
> > economy tanks, now is the time to put the 'windfall' revenues to use;
and
> > put a stop the raiding of the social security trust fund, and tell the
US
> > citizens the truth, the budget is not balanced and they are spending
their
> > social security tax payments.
> >
> > 4) We know that supply side economics does not work; a little research
> > back then could have avoided the problem. But that is what happens when
> you
> > elect an actor to the White House.
> > 5) Most successful capitalist ? The long list of crimes the SOB has
> > committed should be known. Put him in jail and throw away the key;
how's
> > that for a solution ? Actually,
> > give MSFT the largest fine in US history, break-up the company, and let
> the
> > chips fall where they may.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > James Taylor
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Howard Hopkins <hehohop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> >
> >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > I've been a RealTrader participant for over a year now.
> > >
> > > Your posts are ALWAYS very entertaining. Sometimes very annoying and
> > > sometimes thought provoking, but definitely controversial!
> > >
> > > >From your posts I know you HATE; 1) the liberal Clinton
Administration
> > for
> > > using the phantom "Plunge Protection Team" for supporting the stock
> > market;
> > > 2) Greenspan's failure to shut off economic growth fast enough for
you;
> 3)
> > > the Bush Administration for tax increases and increasing the National
> > Debt;
> > > 4) the Supply Side Reagan Administration tax cuts that gave citizens
the
> > > economic choice with their money in a recessionary/inflationary
economy;
> > 5)
> > > and finally you HATE, Bill Gates, the most successful capitalist in
the
> > > history of the world.
> > >
> > > I live in Washington, DC suburbs and just witnessed the protests and
> > > demonstrations against the IMF & World Bank(admittedly flawed
> > organizations
> > > because they have no fiscal responsibilities). I watched and heard
from
> > > today's spoiled 20 somethings about the fight against "Global
> Capitalism"
> > > and 'the evils of third world countries manipulating the working
classes
> > > with the funds of the wealthy nations'. Luckily, the world's greatest
> > > economic power in history (the current United States economy)didn't
have
> > to
> > > struggle through those type of scenarios in the past..... or did
we????
> > >
> > > James, you criticize and bash EVERYONE. How about you propose YOUR
> Nobel
> > > winning economic theory that will, at last, solve the question of how
to
> > > 'manipulate or direct' world markets and economies so we have
> 'reasonable
> > > non-inflationary growth on the path to Utopia'. Stop the critizism
and
> > > JUST GIVE US THE ANSWERS. It sure would make your life less
frustrating
> > and
> > > full of hate while simultaneously solving world problems... please
just
> > end
> > > the suspense and give us the answers!
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Tired of the hearing your bitching, just interested in the answers,
> > > Howard Hopkins
> > >
> > > >From: "James Taylor" <jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Subject: [RT] Re: MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> > > >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:19:52 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Sounds like someone took a bath on some grossly overpriced MSFT
stock.
> > > >As many crimes as Gates has committed, he deserves everything he gets
> and
> > > >more,
> > > >and so does his shareholders for being so damn clueless.
> > > >
> > > >JT
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Peter <derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 11:33 PM
> > > >Subject: [RT] MSFT TAKEOVER BID
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well given that there are rumours of an impending takeover
bid
> by
> > > >the
> > > > > US Govt wrt MSFT, it seems logical to buy MSFT right now & get
> paid
> > a
> > > > > hefty premium for MSFT stock. After all thats what a break up is
all
> > > >about
> > > > > isnt it........ a takeover bid.
> > > > > Seeing as the Govt is the greatest "fool " out there, the
> greater
> > > >fool
> > > > > theory implies that this really is a significant market high.
> > > > > I just may buy more MSFT stock, afterall no gov't is going to
> > screw
> > > > > middle america with all their debt overhang. If anything Bill
Gates
> > > >cant
> > > > > sleep at nights these day because he's about to get really
> seriously
> > > >rich
> > > > > this time around.
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Peter Karaguleski
> > > > > Nam Et Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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