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From: listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jpilleafe@xxxxxxx
Sent: April 21, 2000 04:23 AM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] FW: S&P Mentor Wanted
Subj: Re: [RT] FW: S&P Mentor Wanted
Date: 4/21/00 3:47:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Jpilleafe
To: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In a message dated 4/20/00 10:49:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
<< Any mentor or teacher can only teach what they are skilled at and think
is of value. Just like attending college, you may need several teachers.
Then, its up to you to put together what works for you. The rest of what
makes people successful probably can't be taught. You have to be born with
it, i.e. perseverance, discipline, nerves of steel, quick reflexes,
strategic
mind, etc. I will tell you that the most important knowledge you can have is
self knowledge. "Know Thyself" is what W.D. Gann invoked as his first
trading
rule. >>
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Norman,...It's ironic that you feel this way,..as if to admit that without
"self knowledge" a person could not benefit from your fee based service,
etc.
As usual I disagree with you and feel that success in the financial markets
can be learned from others who are already successful,..without a person
realizing "self knowledge" or other such jibberish. The key factor is the
willingness of the successful person to openly share his/her knowledge,
methodology, and insights with the person who is learning. This gets back
to
an earlier post which I'll repeat
for the benfit of others who may not have been on RT forum at the time or
missed
the post,...etc. Regards, JIM Pilliod
In a message dated 1/22/00 1:47:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
NW: " Wake up people. All of life is one big advertisement. No one does
anything for free unless they think they can somehow benefit."
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Norm,...
I have to disagree strongly with your statement.
More like wake up and look around you at all the people
who for whatever reason have decided to give freely with
expectations of getting nothing back in return....just the
idea of sharing what they have found worthwhile with others.
You can look at people "volunteering" their time in your
community,...or other examples of selfless sharing whereby
one's good fortune in life experience enables them to give
something back. The wealth effect...."prosperity" whatever
you chose to call it,...has enabled many people to be in a
position whereby they are now able to focus on "giving back",....
helping others in whatever way they chose.
So life need not be "one big advertisement".
Specifically in the world of Technical Analysis,...let me give
you an example. The Market Technicians Association MTA
sponsors an Internship Program,...and as an affiliate member
in 1992 I was selected as one of the first to go through the program.
The instructors "mentors" were top in their positions...Alan Shaw with
Smith Barney,...Phil Roth with Dean Witter,...Ralph Acampora with
Prudential,...Steve Shobin,..etc. These are very busy "prominent"
people who for a several day time frame each set everything else
aside to teach a novice,...someone they would likely never see again.
During a three week period these "mentors" gave selflessly,...sharing
in their methodology and work, favorite methodology,..insights,....
nothing was "proprietary"....off-limits,... or unanswered. These
instructors gained nothing in return from this effort,...except perhaps
to instill the same desire to share knowledge and success to the intern.
It worked for me. After the internship,..I went on to become quite
successful in part due to insights I gained from the internship
experience. More importantly,...I learned the real value of sharing
knowledge and helping others....expecting nothing in return, just being
appreciative of the opportunity to give back..etc.
Norm,. you may want to think of how your posts would be different
if you were not motivated to promote your services. Clearly you
are very smart and your work is well founded. But,...it is always
a good time to take account of how fortunate
so many of us are though,...and think about ways in which we can
so easily give back so to speak. Simple.
Jim Pilliod jpilleafe@xxxxxxx
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Also,...I am not affiliated with the Market Technician's
Association (MTA) but would highly recommend the
organization to anyone seriously interested in working
in the financial markets.
Like anything else,...you get out of life what you put into it.
MTA site is www.mta.org
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