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<DIV>So far, all bond retracements on both the daily (June) and weekly 
(unadjusted continuos) have been well contained by the 25% level at 94-0. Each 
attempt at the 25% retracement has&nbsp;been&nbsp;sharply reversed. While 
Tuesday's decline did penetrate the 25% retracement by just 5 ticks, the close 
occurred near the high of the day. I think you'll find a bull flag on the weekly 
which should stand unless price declines a lot closer to 93-02. Even on the 
daily, I see what appears to be a completed ABC w.4 correction. The only bearish 
indication I can find is that the time is a bit short for a w.4 which might 
suggest further sideways action into an ABC. However, if bonds head north, the 
correct is over!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Earl</DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  Stig O 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 15, 2000 3:11 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Sv: Wedges on the 
  Bonds</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>It's interesting to see how differently we 
  look at the same picture.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>The way I interprete you lines, Bill, are TRIANGLES OR 
  PENNANTS and I would even like to draw&nbsp; your flat bottom triangle 
  differently.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>But in my book of chartpatterns we also see a rising wedge 
  ABCD and breakdowns of risings wedges are usually good trading vehicles, since 
  the moves are usually fast.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>The top at E, indicates weakness since it didn't reach the 
  upper trendline. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>the weakness was confirmed by the breakdown at 
  F.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Then we have a test from below of the Wedge at G, which 
  coincide with with your upper trendline. thus we have a rather strong 
  resistance.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Confirming that strong resistance, is the fact that the BDG 
  trendline has been touched 5 times.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Thus, we SHOULD, continue down from this level.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>However, if we don't, look for a powerful move up, since we 
  need power to penetrate the trendline AND we have a failure on the 
  downside.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>These failures often generates powerful moves in the oposite 
  direction.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>So, I would play it with a short trade and a stop and 
  reverse one tick above the top between E and G or above E, depending on you 
  trading style.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Looks like a lowrisk trade though, with a stop so close to 
  the close (if you don't use stop and reverse).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Note however that I am not trading, so it's just my 
  opinion.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Stig</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just to continue the strand on wedges on the 
    bonds, here is a Gif file some might be interested to see - and care to 
    comment on, insofaras when they might think that there might be a break (to 
    the south?)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At least the last two days have had good sized 
    bars and there has been a good chance to put bread on the table, but if the 
    wedge is going to be contained for a bit, then there is going to be some 
    shrinkage before 'the off'.&nbsp; But I think the loading up of puts for the 
    position players cannot be put off for much longer... pun intended, 
    naturally!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mind you, if the Spoo goes on heading south 
    with such determination, the bonds might just pop out of the top of this 
    wedge and that would not be helpful.&nbsp; Still they are supposed to be the 
    safe haven instrument, aren't they?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Take care,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Eykyn<BR><A 
    href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A><BR>"Learn to 
    read the tape"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I watch all of the major futures markets, but only trade a few at a time 
..</DIV>
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<DIV>Bonds ... look very bullish</DIV>
<DIV>S&amp;P ... modestly positive subject to further decline in NASDAQ</DIV>
<DIV>Silver ... frittering away its rally time</DIV>
<DIV>Gold ... appears to be under distribution</DIV>
<DIV>Copper ... any further decline suggests recession</DIV>
<DIV>Cattle ... short is running out of time, looking for long</DIV>
<DIV>Grains ... bullish, price objectives met, looking for pullback</DIV>
<DIV>Sugar ... expect retest of low, been yanked around enough in NY</DIV>
<DIV>Cocoa ... bullish, due for consolidation above weekly trendline</DIV>
<DIV>Cotton ... same as Cocoa</DIV>
<DIV>Currencies ... watching for cyclical bottoms</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Am generally boycotting NY markets.</DIV>
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<DIV>Earl</DIV>
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  <A href="mailto:warren53@xxxxxxxxx"; title=warren53@xxxxxxxxx>Warren 
  Goldstein</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2000 5:19 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] FUT - positions, orders, 
  and thoughts</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Hi RT's,</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>As some of you know, I'm a 100 % 
  technically oriented trader.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>My methods are based on a combination of 
  Newton's Laws of Motion, Symmetrical Wave Analysis</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>and my own derivation of Wilder's Delta 
  Phenomenon.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>There's been relatively discussion of late 
  about actual trading. </SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>In order to inspire some trading 
  discussion, I thought I'd post my current&nbsp;positions, open orders and 
  thoughts.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>The following are for informational 
  purposes&nbsp;only:&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>My current positions:</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Long June T-Bonds @ 94'02 ...... stop 
  raised to 93'26 ........ target 97'01.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Short June S+P 500 @ 1408.3 .... stop 
  lowered to 1414.1 ... target 1300.0.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Long May Silver @ 512 ............. stop 
  505.5 ...................... target 532.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Long May Cocoa @ 831 ............ stop 
  raised to 840 ........... target 908.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Short April Live Cattle @ 72.72 . stop 
  73.32 ...................... target 71.25.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Current open orders (may be adjusted with 
  further data):</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Selling June Nasdaq 100 @ 4509.95 .. stop 
  4735.05 ... target 3945.00.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Buying April Platinum @ 469.6 .......... 
  stop 444.9 ....... target 515.0.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Selling May Silver @ 534 
  ................... stop 540.5 ....... target 485.5.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Buying May Soybeans @ 516 ........... 
  stop 507.75 ..... target 557.5.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Buying May Corn @ 227.25 ............. 
  stop 224 .......... target 250.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Buying May Orange Juice @ 82.35 ... stop 
  80.45 ....... target 86.30.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Buying May Sugar @ 5.14 ................ 
  stop 4.93 ......... target 5.70.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Buying April Feeder Cattle @ 83.32 ... 
  stop 82.17 ....... target 85.80.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Price targets:</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>June Dow Jones ........... down to 
  9485.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>June Aussie Dollar ........ down to 
  5982.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>June British Pound ........ up to 
  16084.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>June Canadian Dollar ... down to 
  6780.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>June Japanese Yen ....... up to 
  9729.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>June Swiss Franc .......... up to 
  6303.&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>May Cotton .................. up to 
  64.40.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=640551122-14032000>Any thoughts or comments?</SPAN><FONT 
  size=2></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=3>Warren Goldstein<BR>Informational Commodity Trading 
  Advisor<BR>Email: <A 
  href="mailto:wsg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>wsg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
  class=640551122-14032000>.</SPAN>com</A><BR>Website: <A 
  href="http://www.wsginvestments.com";>www.wsginvestments<SPAN 
  class=640551122-14032000>.</SPAN>com</A><BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I currently have accounts with National Discount 
Brokers, Schwab, and Quick and Reilly and am not satisfied with the ability to 
short stocks with any of them. Can anyone comment on a good discount 
broker&nbsp;&nbsp; with which short positions can be entered quickly? Any 
experience with the on screen shorting process at E-Trade? With the others I 
have to talk to a broker to assure they can borrow the stock. Is there a 
discount house out there&nbsp; where you can reach a broker without a lengthy 
hold on the phone? Any information would be appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
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Jim,

Try AB Watley, the Watley trader fairly good, but for shorting stocks I
perfer to use Level II.  With the Level II its a lot easier and faster.

Joe Frabosilio

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