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[RT] Re: Overnight disaster insurance?



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Earl wrote:
> The only disaster insurance for a long position is a put and the
> only disaster insurance for a short position is a call. 

I understand, but the question is the cost.  Does it cost so much 
that you're better off to just go flat?

If I understand things correctly, 2 options offset 1 futures 
contract, right?  So let's say I feel I can absorb 100 S&P points on 
a long position before needing the insurance to kick in.  S&P is 
currently at about 1450, so I'd want insurance at 1350.  Feb 1350 
puts are currently at about 12 1/4, so it would cost me about $2500 
per contract to buy disaster insurance that would last 3 weeks.  Mar 
1350 puts are twice that price, so that's $5000 for 7 weeks of 
protection.  Pricey.  Even if you liquidate the option after a short 
2-5 day trade, if the market moves as you hope it does, then the 
option is worth maybe 10% of its purchase price when you exit your 
trade.  $2500 or $5000 would take a damn big bite out of my trades, 
considering they only average about $2200.

It would cost about $1000 per contract to buy a put 230 points OTM 
and it still leaves me open to a $57k/contract hit.  That is damn 
expensive insurance with very little protection.

Or am I misunderstanding how this works?

I need to look into Ben's approach more closely.  Maybe he's found a 
way to do this without blowing all your profits on insurance.  But I 
don't see how you could sell far-out (100pt OTM) calls for as much as 
the close-in (25pt OTM) puts cost you....

Gary