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<DIV
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<A href="mailto:bogeybunky@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=bogeybunky@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Bill
Daniel</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:19
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Free Internet Stock
Research Update</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>Is there a contest on Real Traders for
most obnoxious posts? If so, Mark Brown has won it hands down. If
he is so brilliant why can't he just make meaningful contributions to the
forum like Earl, Ira, Gitanshu, et al rather than these vicious
unwarranted attacks on another contributor. It is really getting
old.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill D</FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
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<DIV
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<A href="mailto:jvc689@xxxxxxxxxxx"; title=jvc689@xxxxxxxxxxx>Dr. John
Cappello</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:22
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Free Internet Stock
Research Update</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Mark,<BR><BR>Thank you so much for misunderstanding
another one of my posts.I posted a <BR>website that had a system that was
monitored on a monthly basis publicly <BR>before and after it happened.You
can not get better audited than that.I made <BR>no claim to inventing it so
go back to remedial reading for pseudo <BR>millionaires.<BR><BR>Secondly
what I posted had new information.I guess I really should clear
<BR>everything through you but someone told me I did not have
to.<BR><BR>With much love to such a kind fellow [Gitanshu would want me to
say that <BR>because he is too much of a gentleman].You are so outrageous my
sides split <BR>laughing just thinking about how you knowingly took someone
else's work <BR>without referencing it,rationalize it and move on like that
is ethical.<BR><BR>Browningl yours,<BR><BR>John<BR><BR><BR>>From: "Mark
Brown" <<A
href="mailto:markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>Reply-To:
Mark Brown <<A
href="mailto:markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>To:
<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>CC:
RealTradersList <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>Subject:
[RT] Re: Free Internet Stock Research Update<BR>>Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999
14:33:19 -0600<BR>><BR>>Hello Doc.,<BR>><BR>>DJC> Someone
wanted to know when MAWI was first posted.<BR>><BR>>So why did you
write all of us?<BR>><BR>>DJC> I also posted my version of the
stock market heat map on MSN which did <BR>>875%<BR>>DJC> in 11
months and which I will trade next year in addition to my own
<BR>>picks<BR>>DJC> and posts.<BR>><BR>>Wow ! Then now maybe
you can afford to get a real email account?<BR>><BR>>Too
bad your stats are not professionally and independently
audited!<BR>>Because with claims like you make-
if true, you would soon own the<BR>>world.<BR>><BR>>Oh
yea I resisted posting this but someone wrote me
privately and<BR>>request I posted it so it would waste
band width. I have no control<BR>>over it you see. BTW I'm now developing
a heat map too!<BR>><BR>>DR. Mark<BR>><BR>><BR>>
>>Thanks,<BR>> >><BR>> >>John<BR>>
>><BR>>
>>______________________________________________________<BR>>
>>Get Your Private, Free Email at <A
href="http://www.hotmail.com";>http://www.hotmail.com</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>--<BR>>Best
regards,<BR>> Mark
Brown
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Brent wrote:
> Perhaps I'm having a little semantics problem. Is a master swordsman a
> perfect swordsman, is a master builder the best builder in the world? Does a
> master glass blower ever make a mistake? Does a master chef ever spoil the
> souffle?
>
> Is a master of Gann equal to Gann? Does a master of Gann ever make a
> mistake? Was Gann himself a perfect trader meaning that he never made a
> mistake?
>
> I realize that most of those though of as masters of anything consider
> themselves as students or learners.
>
> In this book I'm studding by Gann, Gann admits to making mistakes, some big
> ones, and hopes to help others to avoid them, by following his rules.
>
> A journey may or may not be enjoyable, but it is very helpful to have some
> reference points along the way.
>
> On a scale of 1 to 10 in mastering Gann I would rank myself at a 2 or 3
> because I consider myself to still be a novice student of Gann. The reason I
> don't consider myself to be at a 1 or 2 level is that I can apply what I
> have already learned of trading and see strong correlations in Gann
> methodology.
>
> How about you Norm, care to rank yourself?
>
> BTW you forgot "Sancho, My horse!"
>
> Brent,
I would give myself a 7. But, that is subjective in that I am weighting
the inputs based what I think Gann concluded was most important, i.e. 1.
Astrology 2. Weekly and Monthly chart patterns
3. time and price vectors
Gann wrote about his studies and traded over a 50 year period. During
this time, he experimented with many ideas. Some were good and some were not so
good. It is not my goal to be a Gann clone. It is my goal to have tools that
help my trading. I have tired most of what Gann referenced in his courses. I
also have discarded a large potion of these ideas as I found that the rewards
did not justify the effort. This is not to be taken as any criticism of Gann.
Please consider that it took Edison 10,000 attempts before he successfully
invented the light bulb. Similarly, Gann was a pioneer of market analysis only
because he was willing to experiment. So, I don't want to be a "10". As this
would mean I would be
repeating what Gann did. Why travel the exact same path Gann already blazed? I
think it is smarter to pick up the mantle where Gann ended. Figure out what
Gann was really doing immediately preceding his death and proceed from there. I
am confident that is what Gann would advise.
Distillingly,
Norman
>
>
> >
> >
> > Brent wrote:
> >
> > > Robert,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply. BTW my name is Brent. I've only been seriously
> > > studying Gann for about a year now. I am limited by the amount of funds
> I
> > > have to spend on buying Gann information. However, I have been studying
> > > trading almost every (week) day for about 9 years now.
> > >
> > > I am a moderately successful commodity trader at present. If Gann
> > > methodology holds any promise for me it is to significantly improve my
> > > trading. I'm not afraid to spend a reasonable amount time studding
> something
> > > that I believe contains that sort of promise but I have limits as with
> > > anything.
> > >
> > > May I ask you, how much time you have spent studding Gann and where do
> you
> > > feel you are on a scale of 1 to 10 ranging from beginner and novice
> through
> > > being a competent student and finally being a master of Gann.
> > >
> > > Brian,
> > >
> >
> > NW: Brent, the violin, trading, and market studies all have one thing in
> > common. No one has ever and very likely no one will ever "master" these
> vehicle
> > of endless challenge. One strives onward toward perfection knowing that
> > perfection will never be reached. It is the journey and not the
> destination
> > which is magnificent. We, who seek the essence of the markets, come to
> realize
> > that the markets are a manifestation of human psychology. The markets are
> > therefore subject to profound laws of the universe. Gann's reading list is
> > representative of the fact that in one's quest for market truth, the path
> to
> > enlightenment takes us much farther than one would ever have dreamed.
> Those with
> > open minds and perseverance find that the greatest treasure is not found
> in the
> > markets or trading, but rather in the rewards that they receive from the
> quest.
> > The material rewards availed are only a small portion of this magnificent
> > journey.
> >
> >
> > Don Quixotely,
> >
> > Normando
> >
> > P.S. The above text is most effective if read while listening to the
> musical
> > score to "Man of La Mancha". For those not familiar with this great
> musical
> > play, probably the most famous song from this show is "Impossible Dream",
> i.e.
> > "To dream, the impossible dream...."
> > Here's a link to get the video-> Man of La Mancha - PG (1972, 129 min.,
> Drama,
> > Music) This show can provides great inspiration for anyone in pursuit of
> > enlightenment through market studies.
> > Another link ->http://homes.aol.com/n2thewoods/Margo/MolM.html
> >
> > My website is http://www.windmills.com Ha ha, just kidding about that
> one.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > If you aspire to become a master at anything,particularly in this
> > > business-be prepared to put in
> > > many Hours of study-especially with Gann-!! There are many aspects to
> > > trading well and methodology
> > > is one aspect-moneymanagement/ risk control and perhaps the most
> difficult,
> > > but seems the easiest
> > > is the 'emotional' side - Relax and enjoy the journey - if you don't -it
> > > will be very expensive.
> > > Preserve capital,trade small numbers and as you grow in experience the
> > > 'leverage' effect will reward
> > > you well for your efforts-
> > > Take the time to check out the detail of what you call 'BUNK' -(because
> > > there is a correlation to human
> > > nature-freakish or otherwise that exists in the 'out of the ordinary'
> > > approaches)-keep an open mind
> > > always-Yes 90% you will discard and the 10% you will find what works for
> > > you-the point is you will
> > > not have the confidence or discipline to believe in the 10% unless you
> do
> > > the spade work.
> > > Over the years I have read many trading books and found that the
> 'simpler
> > > the better' is so true.In fact
> > > some of my earlier approaches I now know just how good they were !!-(aah
> > > hindsight !!)
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Robert
> >
> >
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