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Hi Chris,
<BR>I hope this helps a little, it is part of an article I wrote for Traders
World and should be in their next issue.
<P>The following excerpts are from a letter that W.D.Gann wrote in 1954
in which he talks specifically about the planets
<BR>relationship to coffee prices.He doesn't spell out the whole secret
behind his timing but never the less it is very interesting and is
<BR>also important as confirmation that astrology was behind his famous
price and time forecasts.
<P>1954:
<BR>March 24-Heliocentric Jupiter enters Cancer.
<BR>June 24- Heliocentric Jupiter is 120 degrees of Saturn.
<BR>April 12th Sun 60 degrees of Jupiter Geocentric.
<BR>April 13th Jupiter 135 degrees of Saturn Geocentric.
<BR>April 15th Sun 180 degrees of Neptune Geocentric.
<BR>April 16th Jupiter 60 degrees of Pluto Geocentric.
<BR>April 26th Jupiter 120 degrees of Neptune Geocentric.
<BR>April 26th Sun 180 degrees of Saturn Geocentric.
<P>The month of April is very important.There should be great activity
and wide swings in prices due to these aspects.
<P>GEOCENTRIC MAPS MOVEMENTS from low prices on coffee--
<P>1931 April 16th to August 7 1953- Mars has made 12 round trips.
<BR>1954 October 29- Mars will be opposite or 180 degrees from its place
on April 16 1931.
<P>1936 October 1st to to September 19th 1953- Mars made 9 round
trips of 360 degrees each.
<BR>1954 Dec 9th- Mars will be 9 and a half round trips or opposite its
place Oct.1 1936.
<P>1940 May 15 to June 12 1953- Mars made 7 round trips or complete cycles.
<BR>1954 April 9th - Mars is 7 and a half cycles and is opposite its place
on May 15 1940.
<BR> Due to the retrograde
position of Mars it will again be 7 and a half July 7th and Aug.17 1954
<BR> or the third time
in opposition to its own place which is very important.
<P>1940 August 19 to September 15 1953- Mars had completed 7 round trips.
<BR>Note low on coffee at that date.
<BR>1954 December 4th - Mars 7 and a half round trips or opposite its own
place on Aug. 19 1940.
<P>If coffee starts to decline between March 22 and 24 1954 it should continue
down to around April 15 when the adverse
<BR>aspects of Jupiter to Saturn and the Sun to Neptune are completed.From
these dates you should watch for the possibility of a
<BR>rally up to April 16 1954 when Jupiter is 120 degrees of Neptune and
the Sun 130 of Saturn.This might cause a quick rally
<BR>followed by a sharp quick decline.
<BR>By studying all of the data outlined above and applying it to coffee
you will be able to learn more about what causes changes in
<BR>trend.
<BR>So there you have it, straight from W.D.Gann himself
<BR>In my last article I did an astrological analysis of W.D.Ganns May
Soybean chart based on the actual notations that he made on
<BR>that chart.That dealt with Jupiters planetary ingress (Jupiter changing
signs in the zodiac) and the price targets that this
<BR>generated.Interestingly enough this same method nailed the low
on Soybeans again this year in July.
<P>Just to give you another idea of how planets can time the markets I
will tell you another technique that I picked up when
<BR>analyzing the sequence of trades that make up Robert Gordons great
campaign in cotton from Ganns book The Tunnel thru the
<BR>air.
<BR>Gann writes,
<P>June 25th 1927.
<BR> October cotton declined
to 16.80
<BR> Bought 500 October at 16.83
and 500 December at 17.15.
<BR> He figured that it would
run up for about thirty days.
<BR>July 25th 1927.
<BR> Sold 500 October cotton
at 19.00
<BR> Sold 500 December at 19.20
<BR> Went short 500 December
at 19.20.
<BR> Decline followed as he expected.
<BR>To understand the reason for the timing of these trades just imagine
a triangle and at each corner there is a planet.This is called
<BR>a grand trine.
<BR>What is happening in this case is that there are two slow planets that
don't move much and they are 120 degrees apart(trine)
<BR>Then a fast planet, Mercury in this case comes around so that it forms
a triangle with the other planets (at the low of the market)
<BR>it moves away so that there is no grand trine anymore but a month later
the Sun comes around to where Mercury use to be and
<BR>forms the triangle again (at the high of the market)
<P>Regards
<BR>Myles Wilson Walker.
<BR>
<P>Chris Jackson wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> According to your source, specifically which
branch of astrology did gann follow/advocate ?
<P>myles@xxxxxx wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> Ganns earliest actual mention of astrology
that I can find was in 1921 (normally he called it natural law)
<BR>he wrote "7 is the fatal number referred to many times in the Bible
and it is ruled by the planet Saturn........The next important time cycle
is 30 years which is caused by the planet Saturn"
<BR>In 1935 Gann wrote"we have astronomical and astrological proof of the
whys and wherefores and the cuases of geometrical angles...."
<BR>All his trades such as the famous "wheat must trade at $1.20 by the
close of trading on the 30th September" (1909) and his annual forecasts
etc are based on provable astronomical cycles/aspects.
<BR>Re this statement <I>I recently heard the same thing from Bryce Gilmore,
It was his contention that Gann had the price time theory mapped out and
making money before he connected it to Astrology. Gilmore's testing
is that any CIT of major import is nailed by precise geometrical relationships,
usually 3 to 4 or so. Squaringly,geometry..</I>.....
<BR>So Why would Gann bother with astrology if he already had this fantastic
system worked out?
<BR>Myles Wilson Walker.
<P>Don Thompson wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Norman,
<P>I recently heard the same thing from Bryce Gilmore, It was his
<BR>contention that Gann had the price time theory mapped out and making
<BR>money before he connected it to Astrology. Gilmore's testing
is that
<BR>any CIT of major import is nailed by precise geometrical relationships,
<BR>usually 3 to 4 or so. Squaringly,
<P>Don
<P>nwinski wrote:
<BR>>
<BR>> Adam Hefner wrote:
<BR>>
<BR>> > I am not a Gann expert, but it is my understanding that Gann
developed his
<BR>> > geometry methods early in his career, and didn't use astrology
until his
<BR>> > later years......so I question the "First and foremost".
<BR>> >
<BR>> > Adam Hefner,
<BR>>
<BR>> My source of information is someone
who was Gann's partner for 10 years and
<BR>> his father worked with Gann before he did. Both son and father were
Astrologers.
<BR>> What is your source of information?
<BR>> Anyone read "Tunnel Thru The Air"? It is a gold mine of hidden Astrological
<BR>> patterns. It tells what Astrological patterns Gann used to trade
the markets.
<BR>> But, you have to know enough Astrology to be able to check out Gann's
dates in
<BR>> an ephemeris. This book has been fully decoded by Bonnie Hill on
video via a
<BR>> lecture she gave about 3 years ago.
<BR>>
<BR>> Cosmically,
<BR>>
<BR>> Norman
<BR>>
<BR>> >
<BR>> >
<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> > From: "nwinski" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<BR>> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<BR>> > Cc: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<BR>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 6:03 PM
<BR>> > Subject: [RT] Re: Gen: Keep it quiet. {02}
<BR>> >
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Brent wrote:
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > > I have been reading one of Gann's books I'm astounded by just
the few
<BR>> > things
<BR>> > > > that I've read in the first 50 pages. I have been writing indicators
to
<BR>> > test
<BR>> > > > these things and I can't hardly believe my eyes. No one must
actually
<BR>> > read
<BR>> > > > this stuff. I never hear anyone talk about it. I'm seriously
thinking of
<BR>> > > > throwing all my old analysis away. I didn't think much about
Gann until
<BR>> > I
<BR>> > > > figured out how to put Gann angles on charts. After that I
could see
<BR>> > that
<BR>> > > > there might be something to it. I'm just dumbfounded.
<BR>> > > >
<BR>> > > > Brent,
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Just wait until you
add Astrology to your analysis. First and
<BR>> > foremost,
<BR>> > > Gann was an Astrology.
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Best Wishes,
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Norman
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > >
<BR>> > ></BLOCKQUOTE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Status:
Anyone having thoughts on the coincidence of the sharp y2k induced
increase in Fed money since Oct 20 and the start of the current
worldwide rally (except Japan),
Apparently, printing has been as much as 30% over normal levels,
anticipating all of the first semester 2000 money needs. That is for me
the major rationale explaining why we are going through the roof in such
a rapid way. The same has been observed in Western europe, and parts of
Asia (Phillipines) but apparently not in Japan (no unusually higher
printing).
Now next question is, what happens when that liquidity is withdrawn over
the next semester, ie, no further printing occurs until the current
batch is all absorbed? Should we expect a major correction/consolidation
immediately after the universally expected january rally, if it comes?
Gwenn
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