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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The only comment that I can make is that I
joined a newsgroup for about a week and got tired of listening(reading) to the
top guys there about how good they were. I quit last night. One of
the guys was Bryce Gilmore. And they are like gods. I wonder if I
could get a little carpentry work off of those guys because I think that they
need to be in a room by themselves so that they can bask in their
glory.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Waves be sacred man.
The caretaker of the newsgroup(not Bryce) said that he makes a living
trading. In the next sentence he said that he gives 'all' his money to
charity. He also suggested that any new members send $120 to his address
in Washington so that he could give this to the poor. This was posted on
this NG about 8 - 10 days ago. Later the boys on the NG figured out that
some dickhead had posted it. I asked the caretaker of the group(let's call
him the custodian) if this post was accurate. He said that everything was
accurate except there was one phrase that wasn't accurate and that was:
'dickheads need not sign on to this NG.' So his solicitation of funds to
help the poor(supply money to surgeons in Kosovo so that they could get supplies
etc.) was true. Like I'll give to whom I want and when I want. They
be wingnuts 'n shit over there.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Henry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Scot Billington <<A
href="mailto:scot.billington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">scot.billington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B><A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Wednesday, December 08, 1999 8:07 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[RT] Where
are... {01}<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>...Gann and Gilmore's enormous fortunes. Gann, who
allegedly made $50<BR>million in the 20s-30s trading futures, would have a
fortune of $1.6 billion<BR>if it earned 6% from then until now. Where
is all this money? Gilmore has<BR>been around selling books, seminars,
and programs for over 10 years. He has<BR>obviously sold tons of them
as it has kept him alive. Out of all of those<BR>students, why are
none of them big time money managers today? I am looking<BR>for one
disciple. Before anyone starts in on the regular retorts, which
I<BR>ADMIT have SOME merit, do not forget that 15 years ago Dennis and
Eckhardt<BR>taught their methods to 24 people and 4 of them are among the
largest CTAs<BR>in the world today. Both the teachers are too.
How many gazillions of<BR>people have read Gann books and Gilmore's
stuff? Are any of them successful<BR>CTAs? Out of all the
authors and experts on Gann, why are none of them<BR>money managers?
Why do they continue to sell books? I could see selling<BR>some to
finance a trading nest egg, but the authors and names are the same.<BR>A lot
of them do well in letter writing contests and some even win
little<BR>trading tournaments. I don't doubt that there will be
multiple replies to<BR>this talking about the author's 600% return in two
weeks after drawing a<BR>Gann angle (which by the way crosses different
points depending on the size<BR>of your graph paper and how much you assign
to each box.). None of those<BR>repliers will have been successful
over 10 years. None will have an NFA<BR>audited track record.
They will be plenty mad and plenty sure of<BR>themselves.<BR><BR>There are
certainly an infinite number of ways to make money in the markets.<BR>I am
open to the possibility that ANY type of method could produce an
edge.<BR>I'll test anything. Some of you should perhaps open your mind
to the<BR>possibility that Gann/Gilmore/Elliott Wave/Time and price etc. do
not create<BR>an edge and merely produce random trades. Many of your
successful examples<BR>are the ultimate form of curve
fitting.<BR><BR>sb<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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The following is posted for a friend. Any help would be appreciated. He is
using TS2000 and has found that using data1 and data2 results in excessively
slow updates. The recalculations seem to occur at each tick even though
"update every tick" is not checked. This is being used in a trading system.
"How do you send the results of a analysis of a indicator from one
workspace data set into a analysis of a indicator in another different
data set workspace? I do not want to trying to set the data sets in the
same workspace. I would like to access global variables and pass the
result between workspaces. "
Thank You
Rob
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