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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I see no salt in your veins whatsoever.
You are pouting because someone dared critisize not your work but your
ego. I'm not insulted by you but take exception to the way in which you
present your ideas. As I said before; I've got nothing to learn from
you. I could tell that you were demolished by my note to wave(also grain)
traders. Why? Because you wanted to take the battle to personal
e-mail. This shows me that you're a coward.(you want no-one to see the
outcome of the battle). The glove is on the ground in front of you.
Ah Bryce. I betcha didn't expect this from a friggin carpenter.
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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>Herzenborgerbacckereinstandttdendreizigmeterzumausgeschitteteingefolgereindenspaetheimkerr.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Sophie <<A
href="mailto:trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B><A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Thursday, December 09, 1999 12:14 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[RT] Tr: Re:
Where are... {03}<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Bryce Gilmore
& Associates</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sophie</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RT] Re: Where are... {02}</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sophie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Send him this...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henry you silly fool, you don't have a sense of
humour, if you have the salt in your veins that makes a trader you would not
be so thin skinned.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bryce.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sophie</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> ; <A
href="mailto:bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bryce</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 09, 1999
7:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Tr: [RT] Re: Where are...
{02}</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:heicz@xxxxxxxxx"; title=heicz@xxxxxxxxx>Henry R.
Heiczereder</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Where are... {02}</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The only comment that I can make is that
I joined a newsgroup for about a week and got tired of
listening(reading) to the top guys there about how good they were.
I quit last night. One of the guys was Bryce Gilmore. And
they are like gods. I wonder if I could get a little carpentry
work off of those guys because I think that they need to be in a room by
themselves so that they can bask in their glory.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Waves be sacred
man. The caretaker of the newsgroup(not Bryce) said that he makes
a living trading. In the next sentence he said that he gives 'all'
his money to charity. He also suggested that any new members send
$120 to his address in Washington so that he could give this to the
poor. This was posted on this NG about 8 - 10 days ago.
Later the boys on the NG figured out that some dickhead had posted
it. I asked the caretaker of the group(let's call him the
custodian) if this post was accurate. He said that everything was
accurate except there was one phrase that wasn't accurate and that
was: 'dickheads need not sign on to this NG.' So his
solicitation of funds to help the poor(supply money to surgeons in
Kosovo so that they could get supplies etc.) was true. Like I'll
give to whom I want and when I want. They be wingnuts 'n shit over
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Henry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Scot Billington <<A
href="mailto:scot.billington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>scot.billington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B><A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Wednesday, December 08, 1999 8:07 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[RT]
Where are... {01}<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>...Gann and Gilmore's enormous fortunes.
Gann, who allegedly made $50<BR>million in the 20s-30s trading
futures, would have a fortune of $1.6 billion<BR>if it earned 6%
from then until now. Where is all this money? Gilmore
has<BR>been around selling books, seminars, and programs for over 10
years. He has<BR>obviously sold tons of them as it has kept
him alive. Out of all of those<BR>students, why are none of
them big time money managers today? I am looking<BR>for one
disciple. Before anyone starts in on the regular retorts,
which I<BR>ADMIT have SOME merit, do not forget that 15 years ago
Dennis and Eckhardt<BR>taught their methods to 24 people and 4 of
them are among the largest CTAs<BR>in the world today. Both
the teachers are too. How many gazillions of<BR>people have
read Gann books and Gilmore's stuff? Are any of them
successful<BR>CTAs? Out of all the authors and experts on
Gann, why are none of them<BR>money managers? Why do they
continue to sell books? I could see selling<BR>some to finance
a trading nest egg, but the authors and names are the same.<BR>A lot
of them do well in letter writing contests and some even win
little<BR>trading tournaments. I don't doubt that there will
be multiple replies to<BR>this talking about the author's 600%
return in two weeks after drawing a<BR>Gann angle (which by the way
crosses different points depending on the size<BR>of your graph
paper and how much you assign to each box.). None of
those<BR>repliers will have been successful over 10 years.
None will have an NFA<BR>audited track record. They will be
plenty mad and plenty sure of<BR>themselves.<BR><BR>There are
certainly an infinite number of ways to make money in the
markets.<BR>I am open to the possibility that ANY type of method
could produce an edge.<BR>I'll test anything. Some of you
should perhaps open your mind to the<BR>possibility that
Gann/Gilmore/Elliott Wave/Time and price etc. do not create<BR>an
edge and merely produce random trades. Many of your successful
examples<BR>are the ultimate form of curve
fitting.<BR><BR>sb<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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All versions of Metastock prior to 6.52 should die on 1/1/2000 when there is
no place to store the century. If uncertain, export a current file to ascii
and repro the last day's data through 1/3/2000 (first trading day), then
import it, then see if MS can read it.
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Henry R. Heiczereder <heicz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:26 AM
Subject: [RT] Re: Futures data {02}
> This might be a long shot but try Technical Tools(they're in Florida
> someplace and are also on the web). I have an old version of
Metastock(2.n;
> 11 years old) and everything works fine. They also have their own charts
> which might be worth a look(if you can't find exactly what you want).
Also
> I believe you can convert to ASCII(automatically done for you if you
> desire). Perhaps this will help.
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