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<DIV><FONT size=2>Had to send the CODIndx separately as RT list rejected email 
when both were sent attached to the same email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>BR</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ROBERT 
  ROESKE</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 22, 1999 4:22 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [realtraders] Gen: VIX 
{02}</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Email or telephone the cboe and request&nbsp;#3 Options in 
  the Risk Management series that pertain to VIX calculations and use.&nbsp; 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Also Larry Connors has done more work and published more 
  systems with VIX than anyone I am aware of.&nbsp; See <A 
  href="http://www.tradehard.com";>http://www.tradehard.com</A> for further 
  information.&nbsp; In particular he has five VIX Reversal systems, CVR1 
  through CVRV.&nbsp; He uses it in a few other ways such as close to close 
  change or open to close change for an indication of the next day's open.&nbsp; 
  See his books "Advanced Trading Strategies" and Street Smarts".&nbsp; He has 
  also published some monographs on the "Best of PTJ" that include the VIX 
  systems.&nbsp; PTJ is the "Professional Taders Journal".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>See the TASC article back in April 1995&nbsp; by John 
  Karczewski titled, "Modifying The Volatility Index".&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>See the CBOE test on Options.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>See if Ron McEwan's Excel spreadsheet is still available on 
  the RealTraders Secrets page.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>If Mark Brown is listening, he probably has more than one 
  piece of code using VIX as years ago he sent me something.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>David Stendahl has a few systems using VIX.&nbsp; May 1994 
  of TASC has an article on "Volatility Index".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>If you can access the Omega Archives then search on Vix and 
  volatility index.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>On the current status of VIX, as Clyde said, it is no slam 
  dunk.&nbsp; VIX can drop during quiet periods when options activity drops and 
  thus may be misinterpreted when all the participants are not at the 
  party.&nbsp; Its been quite awhile since VIX has been below 20.&nbsp; Some 
  might interpret that as a bullish situation rather than an immediate time to 
  sell expecting a reversal.&nbsp; Infact it might not rise back to the mid 
  twenties until after the beginning of the year during the first real post year 
  end rally fizzle, i.e. when the bubbly is exhausted after New 
  Years.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>On "oversold Trin"....some would argue that it is overbought 
  and the Favors 5 day trin is extremely overbought.&nbsp; See the CODI, change 
  of direction indicator attached for OEX with NYSE Trin and NDX with Nasdaq 
  trin.&nbsp; In a strong uptrend like we have had, such indicators cycle 
  between the whipsaw zone and overbought.&nbsp; Both are overbought, but that 
  does not imply an immediate reversal, although lots of us pesimists keep 
  expecting it since Puts pay off in sharp drops to oversold....much better than 
  a Call on a slow ramp up.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>That should get you started.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>BobR</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A href="mailto:mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 21, 1999 6:05 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [realtraders] Gen: VIX 
    {01}</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>RT,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Regarding all of the recent discussion on 
    S&amp;P and VIX, can anyone direct me to a site(s) where I can get more info 
    on the VIX.&nbsp; My current frame of reference is <A 
    href="http://www.decisionpoint.com";>www.decisionpoint.com</A> (they have a 
    significant collection of overall market indicator's); however, their 
    interpretation of VIX is that of a channel based indicator, which I'm just 
    not seeing.&nbsp; Seems like the consensus here is that once VIX falls below 
    about .20 we're due for a correction (not that it has violated some kind of 
    channel) I can't find any VIX info on the CBOE site, strange as it seems, 
    but maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.&nbsp; Any pointers?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Anyone have any comments on the apparently 
    extremely oversold nature of TRIN?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Michael 
  Spencer</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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