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<DIV><FONT size=2>It is something I have just begun looking at recently and 
don't have a set of codified rules.&nbsp; Its open for suggestions.&nbsp; I tend 
to trade off of support and resistance(based on&nbsp;various S/R techniques) and 
then look to see what price does when it gets back to the midpoint.&nbsp; If I 
am in a position then I may exit or hold, i.e. its a decision point.&nbsp; If 
marketposition is zero I may make an entry.&nbsp;It could also be used in a 
breakout approach.&nbsp; Best to use this with some other information such as 
issue and volume breadth or TICK to help decide if the price is going to 
crossover the midpoint or reverse.&nbsp; Since this midpoint is calculated on 
the current day's data, it needs some time after the open to develop&nbsp;some 
range and get a feel for the day's personality.&nbsp; The oscillator would 
suggest entering and exiting&nbsp;on crossovers of the oscillator bands of 0.333 
and 0.667, which can be adjusted by the inputs.&nbsp; Note that the bands adjust 
each day based on that day's developing range.&nbsp; In an earlier post on this, 
Dobson used the midpoint as an entry point on retracements but that&nbsp;must 
have been on longer term time frames like days or weeks.&nbsp; Daytrading is a 
bit different with more up and down motion which at the end of the day may look 
like noise, but on shorter time frames is composed of trends.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>BobR</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  hpm </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 14, 1999 4:12 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> AW: [realtraders] How to trade 
  the midpoint ?</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=270400612-14111999>Hi 
  Robert</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=270400612-14111999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=270400612-14111999>How 
  do you trade(use)&nbsp;your midpoint tool.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=270400612-14111999>(entry and exit signals at what 
  levels?)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=270400612-14111999>&nbsp;Thanks for your help</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=270400612-14111999>hp</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hans-Peter Moeckli</FONT> <BR><U><FONT 
  color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><A 
  href="mailto:anatop@xxxxxxxxxx";>anatop@xxxxxxxxxx</A></FONT></U> </P>
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    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
    [<A 
    href="mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]<B>Im 
    Auftrag von </B>ROBERT ROESKE<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Sonntag, 14. November 1999 
    05:59<BR><B>An:</B> realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Betreff:</B> 
    [realtraders] Gen - midpoint oscillator {01}<BR><B>Wichtigkeit:</B> 
    Hoch<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>One thing leads to another so now we have the MidPoint 
    Oscillator.&nbsp; Use of the daily midpoint has intrigued me since fooling 
    around with Levines WinMidas software.&nbsp;&nbsp;The midpoint must 
    represent a balance of power of sorts in terms of who is or isn't profitable 
    for the day.&nbsp; With literally hundreds of books on the shelves it is 
    sometimes difficult to recall where a concept was presented.&nbsp; In 
    looking for something on Fibonacci tonight this book by Edward Dobson at 
    Traders Press was opened again after many years of collecting 
    dust.&nbsp;&nbsp;Title is, "The Trading Rule That Can Make You Rich".&nbsp; 
    Here is a quote in the Foreward to give credit where credit is due.&nbsp; 
    "The title of this book quotes the Master Trader, the late W.D. Gann, and 
    shows the extreme importance that he placed on the halfway point, or 50% 
    reaction.&nbsp; To quote Mr Gann; "You can make a fortune by following this 
    one rule alone.&nbsp;&nbsp;A careful study and review of past movements in 
    any commodity will prove to you beyond doubt that this rule works, and that 
    you will make profits following it."</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Dobson goes on to say, "My early years of trading were 
    loss-riddled due, in large measure, to the recurrent error of buying on 
    strength or selling on weakness, when it looked "safe" to do so, then 
    getting stopped out or plain "scared" into liquidating the trade on the 
    inevitable reaction, often right at the worst possible moment, when the 
    position no longer seemed "safe".&nbsp; (deja vu, you say?).&nbsp;&nbsp;A 
    careful application of my cardinal timing technique...using the 50% reaction 
    for trade entry, with a protective stop at the 66% level on a close only 
    basis...should put you, after all these years of searching for the optimum 
    timing technique, into the enviable position of buying from the "scared 
    sheep" (or selling to the "scared shorts") at, or close to, the best 
    possible moment!&nbsp; And, if you don't believe it after reading this book, 
    start calculating halfway points and watch for yourself...you'll soon begin 
    to feel omniscient as you predict the tops and bottoms of reactions with 
    fractions!"</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Well, perhaps Clyde will make a system out of this for us 
    and we can be foreverafter grateful to him.&nbsp; PS, yes I know the chart 
    is getting cluttered.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>BR</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Just for interests sake here is a .gifer of the GOsc on the 
day session of T bonds.&nbsp; Note how the midpoint plays a significant role as 
do the 0.333 and 0.667 bands.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>BobR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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