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jimwsherwood@xxxxxxxxx writes:

<< When to Buy and When to Sell 
 by Robert J. Rak 
 
 ---------------------------------
 
 Eureka! After years of writing weekly here at About.com I am finally going 
to present to you the holy grail of trading. That is, when to buy and when to 
sell! 
 Those are two sentences you will never hear me say, at least not with a 
straight face. In fact, if you did, I recommend you hide your daughters and 
tuck your wallets into a safe place because I would definitely be up to no 
good. 
 Obviously there is no magic indicator or formula or holy oracle capable of 
telling you when to get in and out of individual trades. But, there is a 
sound methodology you can employ which can better your profitability. 
 Tops and Bottoms 
 Ideally anyone in their right mind would love to be able to buy bottoms and 
sell tops. But it just doesn't happen. Not consistently at least. Not even 
close. 
 In fact, it's truly remarkable how much more often traders can buy tops and 
sell bottoms. Now that happens far more frequently. 
 But part of being a good trader involves the effort of buying bottoms and 
selling tops. A safe, solid methodology involves buying on pullbacks (or 
buying bottoms) and selling into rallies (or selling tops). 
 Buying Pullbacks 
 The idea of buying a pullback is one of buying when you can, not when you 
have to. If you are buying while most others are selling you will then have a 
position established when the decline ceases and a rally ensues. Buying a 
pullback applies both to long entries as well as short exits. 
 As per my Trader's Commandments, I feel only strong stocks should be traded 
to the long side. So, let's take a look at the intraday chart of a strong 
stock: 
  
 Don't be confused into thinking this is only a strategy for intraday 
trading. The time frame of the trader/investor is irrelevant. The intraday 
chart above could be a daily, even weekly chart and the lesson would be the 
same. 
 Selling Rallies 
 Again, you want to sell when you can, not when you have to. Whether you are 
selling out of a long or initiating a short is not relevant. But as far as 
getting short goes, let's look at an intraday of a weak stock: 
  
 Easier Said than Done 
 Of course looking at these charts we are using hindsight, perhaps the only 
perfect trading tool in existence. Unfortunately I haven't found a way to 
incorporate it real time into my trading. 
 That said there are ways to get a feel for such tops and bottoms. For one, 
following one or a small handful of stocks gets the trader 'in synch' with 
how a stock trades. 
 Second, using some of the Information Traders Look At I wrote about. 
Particularly: 
 
    The Tape: No better way to get acquainted with a stock than to watch it's 
ticker. It's the best way to determine when a stock is basing. 
    Charts: A great way to apply the ideas of support and resistance. 
    Spoos: The charts above, if overlayed on a spoo chart, would have rallies 
and pullbacks which closely tracked those in the futures on that day. 
    Bonds: While not so for AOL, JPM is definitely influenced by the bonds 
and tracked them closer than it did the spoos. 
    Sectors: No surprise, at least not to me, the internets were strong on 
this day and the financials were weak. 
 
 Reversals 
 This is in no way a perfect strategy. Some pullbacks don't stop. When a 
stock reverses the rallies become shortable, not something to close longs 
into. 
 But reversals aren't easy to spot. And that's OK. There is no such thing as 
a 100% right trader, no matter what he tells you. 
 And again, some of the other tools I list will help in this regard. If the 
spoos are up big on the day only to turnaround and head south chances are 
good strong stocks will follow. They may not participate in the decline in 
full force, but they will usually stop going up. 
 That's Not All 
 There's more to it than what I've written above. But this will get your feet 
wet. In the following weeks I'll look at ways to enter and exit these trades 
which complement what you've read. 
 Until then make a point of looking at lots of charts. Learn to spot strong 
and weak stocks. Then notice how often such stocks will give you 
opportunities to get in with pullbacks and rallies. 
 About.com Poll  [input]   [input]   [input]  Is buying pullbacks and selling 
rallies a good way to trade?
 
  [input] Definitely! It's a high reward, low risk strategy. [input] No way! 
It works in hindsight, not in realtime. The only way to trade is to trade 
breakouts. [input] It depends. It'll be right for some, wrong for others.
  [input] 
 &PID=">Current ResultsWhen you're done reading, please visit the boards. 
Share your thoughts about the feature with us. Add something you feel was 
left out. Address something you feel I presented in a biased nature. Whatever 
the reason, please do participate and speak up. 
 The topic is up and waiting for you, this one titled "when to buy and when 
to sell". Or create a new topic. 
 
  >>

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When to Buy and When to Sell 
by Robert J. Rak 

---------------------------------

Eureka! After years of writing weekly here at About.com I am finally going to present to you the holy grail of trading. That is, when to buy and when to sell! 
Those are two sentences you will never hear me say, at least not with a straight face. In fact, if you did, I recommend you hide your daughters and tuck your wallets into a safe place because I would definitely be up to no good. 
Obviously there is no magic indicator or formula or holy oracle capable of telling you when to get in and out of individual trades. But, there is a sound methodology you can employ which can better your profitability. 
Tops and Bottoms 
Ideally anyone in their right mind would love to be able to buy bottoms and sell tops. But it just doesn't happen. Not consistently at least. Not even close. 
In fact, it's truly remarkable how much more often traders can buy tops and sell bottoms. Now that happens far more frequently. 
But part of being a good trader involves the effort of buying bottoms and selling tops. A safe, solid methodology involves buying on pullbacks (or buying bottoms) and selling into rallies (or selling tops). 
Buying Pullbacks 
The idea of buying a pullback is one of buying when you can, not when you have to. If you are buying while most others are selling you will then have a position established when the decline ceases and a rally ensues. Buying a pullback applies both to long entries as well as short exits. 
As per my Trader's Commandments, I feel only strong stocks should be traded to the long side. So, let's take a look at the intraday chart of a strong stock: 
 
Don't be confused into thinking this is only a strategy for intraday trading. The time frame of the trader/investor is irrelevant. The intraday chart above could be a daily, even weekly chart and the lesson would be the same. 
Selling Rallies 
Again, you want to sell when you can, not when you have to. Whether you are selling out of a long or initiating a short is not relevant. But as far as getting short goes, let's look at an intraday of a weak stock: 
 
Easier Said than Done 
Of course looking at these charts we are using hindsight, perhaps the only perfect trading tool in existence. Unfortunately I haven't found a way to incorporate it real time into my trading. 
That said there are ways to get a feel for such tops and bottoms. For one, following one or a small handful of stocks gets the trader 'in synch' with how a stock trades. 
Second, using some of the Information Traders Look At I wrote about. Particularly: 

   The Tape: No better way to get acquainted with a stock than to watch it's ticker. It's the best way to determine when a stock is basing. 
   Charts: A great way to apply the ideas of support and resistance. 
   Spoos: The charts above, if overlayed on a spoo chart, would have rallies and pullbacks which closely tracked those in the futures on that day. 
   Bonds: While not so for AOL, JPM is definitely influenced by the bonds and tracked them closer than it did the spoos. 
   Sectors: No surprise, at least not to me, the internets were strong on this day and the financials were weak. 

Reversals 
This is in no way a perfect strategy. Some pullbacks don't stop. When a stock reverses the rallies become shortable, not something to close longs into. 
But reversals aren't easy to spot. And that's OK. There is no such thing as a 100% right trader, no matter what he tells you. 
And again, some of the other tools I list will help in this regard. If the spoos are up big on the day only to turnaround and head south chances are good strong stocks will follow. They may not participate in the decline in full force, but they will usually stop going up. 
That's Not All 
There's more to it than what I've written above. But this will get your feet wet. In the following weeks I'll look at ways to enter and exit these trades which complement what you've read. 
Until then make a point of looking at lots of charts. Learn to spot strong and weak stocks. Then notice how often such stocks will give you opportunities to get in with pullbacks and rallies. 
About.com Poll  [input]   [input]   [input]  Is buying pullbacks and selling rallies a good way to trade?

 [input] Definitely! It's a high reward, low risk strategy. [input] No way! It works in hindsight, not in realtime. The only way to trade is to trade breakouts. [input] It depends. It'll be right for some, wrong for others.
 [input] 
&PID=">Current ResultsWhen you're done reading, please visit the boards. Share your thoughts about the feature with us. Add something you feel was left out. Address something you feel I presented in a biased nature. Whatever the reason, please do participate and speak up. 
The topic is up and waiting for you, this one titled "when to buy and when to sell". Or create a new topic. 





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