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Ask the question, "does Bill Gates contribute to the Democrats, or the
Republicans for that matter, in dollar amounts that acknowledge tribute?"
Personally, I believe this is simply a shakedown cloaked in Anti-Trust rhetoric.
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DS
JW wrote:
> I think this whole persecution of MS by the government is a load of crap.
> The primary issue was whether or not MS could include a browser (IE)
> integrated into Win95. All the rest of the "dirt" that was dug up can only
> be related to this question. Should MS be allowed to build and configure
> their OS to meet perceived market requirements? Or should they be required
> to provide support for a competitor?
>
> The market was well on its way to dealing with MS's market share and
> sometimes questionable business practices via the increasing pervasiveness
> of the internet. With the net, all that's needed is a browser to access a
> net enabled application. And that browser can be running on a PC a Mac, a
> Linux machine, a Palm Pilot, Net Terminal or any other net appliance. As
> the bandwidth pipe size increases and continues to come down in cost, we
> will eventually access all of our applications ad-hoc, downloading and
> running them as we need. Most people will have little use or need for a
> major OS at home like Windows, Unix, Mac/OS or anything else. Then we won't
> have to worry about GPF type errors, application code updates, viruses, etc.
>
> I think most sane people would agree that the government, as it presently
> stands, has exhibited a less than sterling record in terms of vision and
> innovation. Hell, our tax code gets more unfathomable year by year while
> Congress accomplishes less with each session. Why would anyone want the
> government to control the makeup or marketing of software? There aren't any
> public safety issues here, like in the automobile, for example. Speaking of
> cars, my car has a big multi-function radio/cassette player/CD embedded in
> the console. I can't change it without rebuilding the whole dashboard. Why
> doesn't Alpine or other independents start a lawsuit against car
> manufacturers in an attempt to force them to add a standard size radio slot
> for an Alpine radio? Isn't Alpine business being hurt by those car
> companies that don't provide it an opportunity to offer its product to
> consumers? Isn't my choice being restricted? What is Janet Reno going to
> do about this <LOL>?
>
> Despite the rhetoric of the far left, a government cannot make every person
> and business equal. Similarly, everyone's opportunity cannot be made equal
> nor can a completely flat playing field be provided for everyone. We are
> not all equal and life is not fair.
>
> But aren't we all creatures of nature? And hasn't nature proven to be
> notoriously unfair (species come and go, die out, big animals eat smaller
> animals, etc.)? If an animal or plant population gets too big (figuratively
> speaking), then nature somehow trims them back through various means
> (famine, disease, weather, disasters,...). But mankind and governments
> always seem to think that they can artificially supplant natural rule and do
> a better job. Let natural law rule through the market place. MS would have
> gotten its due through the marketplace.
>
> Here is a link that you might want to check out about the MS case:
>
> http://www.moraldefense.com/Campaigns/Microsoft/Antitrust_FAQ/default.htm
>
> With regards to government and equality, I would highly recommend reading
> Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.'s 1961 short story titled Harrison Bergeron. I found a
> link to the story on the net at:
>
> http://www.crosslink.net/~jbloom/harrison.html
>
> JW
> Copyright © 1999
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Earl Adamy
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:54 PM
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
>
> I don't think it is at all funny, but it is long overdue. As an active
> developer and among the pioneer (Win286) Windows adopters and developers at
> a time when current wisdom held that DesqView would rule the multi-window
> desktop, I have observed, applauded and criticized Microsoft at close range.
> Microsoft exhibited the best of free market business in wresting the desktop
> from QuarterDeck. Since doing so, they have provided developers and
> consumers with the benefits of a uniform UI. However they have been
> relentless in their campaign to insure that no business or developer with
> which they either competed, or thought they might compete, had the free
> market opportunity to do the same. The power of the UI vested Microsoft with
> unbridled power ... they have done everything the government claimed and a
> great deal more.
>
> Microsoft, does charge what they want to charge - the prices of everything
> else in the PC world have come down many fold while the price of Windows has
> increased, albeit nominally. Microsoft, is a monopolist but no monopolist
> with half a brain charges so much that they drive customers away.
>
> The last thing I want is the Clinton luddites controlling the destiny of the
> software business, but it is the job of the government to insure a truly
> free market economy and the had failed miserably to provide an environment
> in which Microsoft competitors could survive. I will note one more
> government free market failing which will come home to roost in future years
> .... mergers are in large measure being driven by lack of business pricing
> power and the desire to curtail global production to more profitable levels.
> Guess what is going to happen when the number of global competitors has been
> significantly winnowed and global corporations deem themselves beyond the
> anti-trust reach of any one government.
>
> Earl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Howard Hopkins <hehohop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <joe6964@xxxxxxxx>; <GREHERT@xxxxxxx>
> Cc: <Proffittak@xxxxxxx>; <chmeyer@xxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > You think it's funny that the government is stepping in and forcing it's
> > will into the free market?????? I think it's scary!!
> >
> > Windows may not be the best OS around, but MSFT has certainly kept it
> > affordable. A true monopoly could charge whatever they want because of
> > inelastic demand.
> >
> > Question: Where would we be as a networked society, if in 1980 AAPL has
> > opened up there OS? Would AAPL be the one under persecution/prosecution?
> > What if MSFT hadn't controlled the OS market and there were 5 or more OS
> in
> > the beginning each with equal market share of pc's OS? A simple unified
> OS
> > brought about the proliferation of the PC onto almost everyone's desktop.
> >
> > I beleive without MSFT's dominance we would be years behind where we are
> > now. Bill Gates "ruthless greed" should be applauded not punished but if
> it
> > is to be punished it should be by the free markets, not Janet Reno's
> > hinchman.
> >
> > Just my thoughts,
> > Howard
> >
> >
> > >From: Joe Frabosilio <joe6964@xxxxxxxx>
> > >To: GREHERT@xxxxxxx
> > >CC: Proffittak@xxxxxxx, chmeyer@xxxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
> > >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:43:47 -0600
> > >
> > >Sorry Jerry,
> > >
> > >I got a little missed guided there. Spread a little panic, no I just
> think
> > >it
> > >funny that MSFT finally got hit in the face. Got to do some more
> research.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Joe Frabosilio
> > >
> > >GREHERT@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now aren't we missing the prices of the 7 baby bells that resulted
> from
> > >the
> > > > break up.
> > > >
> > > > Are you trying to spread a little panic?
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Rehert
> > >
> >
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