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Hi Steve, why such anger? Different people different interests! In addition
what you do displaying your sugar trades is no different from debating about
the direction of rates, currencies, and asset valuations or is it?
I have traded sugar myself and even made money in it, but really I have no
clues about it, why it should do this or that, I just looked at patterns I used
in stocks and hence stay quiet on this. But I don't tell the others to stop
talking about sugar. On the contrary, if you want to share your knowledge about
what makes this market tick I am all ears... Maybe I can learn something there.
Gwenn
| -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
| Von: Steve Karnish [SMTP:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
| Gesendet am: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 5:23 PM
| An: List; metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Betreff: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
|
| List,
|
| From time to time, traders actually discuss "real" trades on this forum (the
| current sugar debate). This is a really great "idea" that should be explored
| on a daily basis. Think of it: a place where "realtraders" can exchange
| "real trading" ideas. It's a concept that could catch on.
|
| For those who monitor real trades in the grain market:
|
| 9/29: Went short: corn (214.75), oats (116.00), & wheat (286.50); (December
| contracts)
|
| 10/6: Covered and went long oats (110.50)
|
| 10/7: A close below 203 in Dec. corn and 262.25 in Dec. wheat triggers long
| positions tomorrow.
|
| This has little to do with the crash of '29, Alan Green"spun", or all those
| "politicos" conspiring to make my life miserable in the gold market. But,
| guess what? Real people are in these real trades, making real money, not
| letting the "news" influence their approach, and they are certainly not
| sitting around theorizing about the rise and fall of US economy.
|
| Steve Karnish
| Cedar Creek Trading
| http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/
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Isn't it that it comes out differently every time anyway, meaning your best
fundamental plans just go "boom" with the rest of it...?
Gwenn
| -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
| Von: Gary Fritz [SMTP:fritz@xxxxxxxx]
| Gesendet am: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 5:56 PM
| An: RealTraders Discussion Group
| Betreff: Re: How to protect assets
|
| Earl wrote:
| > I have studied this off and on in some detail over the past few
| > years and my most educated conclusion is that intermediate to long
| > term US treasuries should provide the greatest safety and highest
| > return.
|
| I didn't expect that answer AT ALL. So you feel the rates are likely
| to go way down, thus increasing value of the bonds? And you expect
| that increase to outweigh the losses to inflation or other attacks on
| the dollar's value?
|
| I don't know what to expect on this. Rates up or down, inflation or
| deflation, I really don't have a good feel for which way it is likely
| to go when everything goes boom. I wish I understood the mechanics
| better. This is one time when this technical trader wishes he had a
| better fundamental background.
|
| "BruceB" <bruceb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| > Just keep in mind that in both the 30's and in Japan it was
| > nominal rates that fell. You might want to take into account what
| > real rates did during those periods in making your decision...
|
| I assume by this you mean that inflation sapped any gains? Would you
| expand on your answer, please?
|
| I think this topic concerns all of us, and I'm very interested in
| pursuing the thread further. Private emails from others indicate I'm
| not the only one. I hope anyone else who feels they have a good
| handle on the likely scenarios and/or the best financial survival
| plans will share it with us. Thanks!
|
| Gary
|