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In a message dated 9/30/99 10:47:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

<< Ben says: start 01/11/1973   -  2/13/1980    (Dow   only  got back to 
even!!!!  after 7 years)
 
 So I did a simple MA crossover system for that period. One sells or buys on 
price closing below/above the MA, uses the prior swing high/low as a trailing 
stop. Decent, during that period. Indecent, during the only non-trend period. 
Monthly, Weekly, Daily.
 
 Learning: MA crossovers do not work in non-trending markets. Change tactics. 
One size, we learn, does not fit all.
 
 Maybe the humint element will tell us that price behavior has changed from 
trending to non-trending before the system shock significantly damages our 
account and psychology.
 
 Ditto when I look at 1963, as Earl suggests. Same system, same result.
 
 And I'm not even swing trading.
 
 Then I think to myself, heck, we trade bear markets in commodities all the 
time. I know for a fact that Earl and Ben are accomplished cross-market 
traders. Therefore, what is the big deal here anyway ?
 
 I am forwarding charts to illustrate my statements, since pictures speak 
louder than words. 
 
 Once again, I am stirring up discussion to issues we seem to be taking for 
granted (e.g. 1 or 2 systems should work in all market patterns; or a deeper 
issue of a trader's  (the subjective humint factor) causes the trader more 
harm than good - hence the need for a system to start with).
 
 A bear market is a bear market. Wealth destruction is never any good. But we 
are talking trading here. Does it really make a difference where price goes, 
as long as we can capture the fallout of that price move ?
 
 Comments welcome. Charts follow this email, separately due to bandwidth 
restrictions.
 
 Regards
 Gitanshu
  >>
Hello
Happy to see we are back to trading
you make a lot of vaild points
even  i can learn from you.
this is why i join the list
regards
Ben