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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I am sorry but the cash price of the share is 
relevant to the option price</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>the example just doesnt make 
sense for the call to be so expensive it must be in the money or a long maturity 
likewise for the put to be so cheap</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Ok, Here's the chart.&nbsp; Let me know what your opinions are as to why 
the call had&nbsp;more than twice as much loss in value compared to the 
put.&nbsp; Yes, the put gained value because the stock dropped from 138 to 90, 
but, look at the relative difference in loss/gain of value.&nbsp; The call lost 
1600% value, the put only gained %700.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>The call was $38 in the money, the put was $38 out of the money at the 
start.&nbsp; They are both Aug 100 (In this case, at least, the H is for Aug, T 
for 100)</DIV>
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  <DIV>The point here is, the call went from 40 to 2.5, a 1600% decrease in 
  price, </DIV>
  <DIV>the Put went from 1.5 to 10.5, a 700% increase in price.&nbsp; What I was 
  pointing</DIV>
  <DIV>out was that, as a market maker, had I sold you 1 call at 40 and 1 put at 
  1.5,</DIV>
  <DIV>I would still be ahead 40 - 2.5 = 37.5, 1.5 - 10.5 = 9, 37.5 - 9 = 
  28.5.&nbsp; So, </DIV>
  <DIV>I would have a 28.5 X 100 = $2,850 profit for each of a call/put 
  combination sold.</DIV>
  <DIV>That is why I said the price of the stock is irrelevant.&nbsp; Yes, the 
  stock dropped</DIV>
  <DIV>significantly, but, look what the options did.&nbsp; Yes, there is more 
  to being a </DIV>
  <DIV>market maker than this simple illustration, but, there is a distinct 
  advantage</DIV>
  <DIV>to selling verses buying.</DIV>
  <DIV>Kohath</DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>If you feel that the stock price is irrelevant, I'll take the 
  other side of your trades all day long.&nbsp;&nbsp; The conversion reversal 
  would have kept the puts and calls in direct relationship to one 
  another.&nbsp; It looks to me like the calls started in the money and then ran 
  out.&nbsp; Half a truth doesn't prove that you are right.&nbsp; Ira. 
  <BR>kohath wrote: 
  <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">&nbsp;It's irrelevant where the stock was then and 
    where it is now.&nbsp; The point is,Selling always brings in a higher 
    percentage than buying, always!&nbsp; Becauseof the melting value of 
    options, but, with selling there is limited profit withunlimited 
    risk!Kohath&nbsp; You left out one very important fact. Where was the stock 
    at point one and at point 2 in your example. Why don't you post the stock 
    chart too?&nbsp; Ira. 
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      Charts of AMZN 100, Call, Put.Call went from $40 to $2.50, put went from 
      $1.50 to $10.50.As can be seen, same strike, same time frame.&nbsp; This 
      is whyselling is more profitable than buying, but, selling involvesmuch 
      higher risk.&nbsp; These two charts also show the marketmakers have a 
      distinct advantage because of the meltingvalue of the options.Now if we 
      had only sold 100 contracts of the YZZHT on July 
    16th!Kohath&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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