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Re: Amzn Call/Put 100 Strike


  • To: "Ira Tunik" <ist@xxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: Amzn Call/Put 100 Strike
  • From: "kohath" <kohath@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:18:34 -0700
  • In-reply-to: <00ca01bee58f$caea7680$a54a03cf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

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<DIV>The point here is, the call went from 40 to 2.5, a 1600% decrease in price, 
</DIV>
<DIV>the Put went from 1.5 to 10.5, a 700% increase in price.&nbsp; What I was 
pointing</DIV>
<DIV>out was that, as a market maker, had I sold you 1 call at 40 and 1 put at 
1.5,</DIV>
<DIV>I would still be ahead 40 - 2.5 = 37.5, 1.5 - 10.5 = 9, 37.5 - 9 = 
28.5.&nbsp; So, </DIV>
<DIV>I would have a 28.5 X 100 = $2,850 profit for each of a call/put 
combination sold.</DIV>
<DIV>That is why I said the price of the stock is irrelevant.&nbsp; Yes, the 
stock dropped</DIV>
<DIV>significantly, but, look what the options did.&nbsp; Yes, there is more to 
being a </DIV>
<DIV>market maker than this simple illustration, but, there is a distinct 
advantage</DIV>
<DIV>to selling verses buying.</DIV>
<DIV>Kohath</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
href="mailto:ist@xxxxxx"; title=ist@xxxxxx>Ira Tunik</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:kohath@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
title=kohath@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>kohath</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 13, 1999 11:04 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Amzn Call/Put 100 Strike</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>If you feel that the stock price is irrelevant, I'll take the 
other side of your trades all day long.&nbsp;&nbsp; The conversion reversal 
would have kept the puts and calls in direct relationship to one another.&nbsp; 
It looks to me like the calls started in the money and then ran out.&nbsp; Half 
a truth doesn't prove that you are right.&nbsp; Ira. <BR>kohath wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">&nbsp;It's irrelevant where the stock was then and 
  where it is now.&nbsp; The point is,Selling always brings in a higher 
  percentage than buying, always!&nbsp; Becauseof the melting value of options, 
  but, with selling there is limited profit withunlimited risk!Kohath&nbsp; 
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:ist@xxxxxx"; title=ist@xxxxxx>Ira Tunik</A></DIV><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:kohath@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=kohath@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>kohath</A><B>Cc:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A><B>Sent:</B> 
  Friday, August 13, 1999 10:40 AM<B>Subject:</B> Re: Amzn Call/Put 100 
  Strike</DIV>&nbsp;You left out one very important fact. Where was the stock at 
  point one and at point 2 in your example. Why don't you post the stock chart 
  too?&nbsp; Ira. 
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    Charts of AMZN 100, Call, Put.Call went from $40 to $2.50, put went from 
    $1.50 to $10.50.As can be seen, same strike, same time frame.&nbsp; This is 
    whyselling is more profitable than buying, but, selling involvesmuch higher 
    risk.&nbsp; These two charts also show the marketmakers have a distinct 
    advantage because of the meltingvalue of the options.Now if we had only sold 
    100 contracts of the YZZHT on July 16th!Kohath&nbsp;<IMG alt="" border=0 
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