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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Can anyone recommend a vendor who still has
copies of the book "The Torque Method".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Any comments or opinions on the
book.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Patrick.<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Arial Black" size=3>These
metals are cheaper right now for a number of reasons including lower costs of
production </FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2><FONT
face="Arial Black" size=3>but I haven't seen anyone giving any away. Deflation
just may be what we will be fighting in the future. You have already seen
farmers going belly up. Most mines just shut down when the price goes too low.
I'm just surprised that the banks didn't dump their gold some time ago when
prices were higher. The 260 area is a Fibonacci extension of those gold highs
years ago. I'm afraid there is no perfect hedge.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR><B>From: </B>FXTrader
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</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Saturday, May 22, 1999 5:43 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>GOLD &
SILVER<BR><BR></DIV></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I had a friend who bought $33,000 of silver back in
1982-84. He paid $14.00 an ounce. I remember him telling me it was the best
inflation hedge in the world, you can never lose your money, and he would retire
a wealthy man on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Yes, and for those who want to know, he still owns it. Our
standing joke is, at least his rate of return has been getting better every
year. HAHAHA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Richard Chehovin</FONT></DIV>
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From: Don Roos <roos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: OPTN - DOW Crash Insurance
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If you expect a crash and still want to hold your stocks, you must be
assuming any crash would act like 87 rather than 29. It took almost 3
yrs for the 29 variety to be completed. Your options would be worthless
long before the selloff was over, so you would need to keep buying more
insurance at a very high cost. Also, if the selloff was extended, the
time it would take your stocks to return to breakeven would be
substantial, even with a moderate recession. It took 10 yrs to break
even after the 73 recession and it took until 1954 to break even with
the 29 peak (25 yrs).
Selling half of your position over a few months and concomitantly
placing capital into Rydex Ursa (short sp) would protect you nicely if
your beta is similar to the Ursa (not sure if it is 1.0 or 1.5 like its
brother Nova- the long sp counterpart of the Ursa).
I suppose tax consequences are weighing on your evaluation of this
position, but the only way to avoid taxes is either death or giving back
all the gains, so I suspect neither would be a good solution.
Take care,
Don
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