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From: "Edelina" <duis.abn@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: I refere to earl adamy "june bonds " message - Give her alittle break
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dear Jonathan and norman,
I will really thank everybody who will correct my english
and even some tips how to trade.
from every one I try to learn. because I realise that no one
in this world is stupid. and very few are genious !
so just keep posting me what ever you want.
FOR Jonathan Sible and Norman
learn the word in french <<<<<"bisous"
learn --- Original Message -----
From: Norman E. Phair <ericrogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mittwoch, 5. Mai 1999 22:16
Subject: Re: I refere to earl adamy "june bonds " message - Give her alittle
break
>" Previsions is not an
>english language word. My email to you to get a
>clarification went unanswered. I think you mean
>something like
>predictions.
>
>...........................................................................
........................
>
>I have enough to do and one of them is not correcting someone english.
>I sent her an email because I wanted a clarification of what she was trying
to
>say. If I answer someone I want to know what they meant, otherwise
>my answer would be in vain. I can not correct someone english if I do not
know
>what they are saying. My intention was not to CORRECT her english..
and I
>do not think I did that. I made an assumption and phrased my comment
based on
>my assumption.
>
>I would email here privately if I wanted to correct her english, which I
would
>not do unless asked. I have had private phone conversations with her
>and I have faxed her information to Switzerland. I have sent email to her
many
>time on here and have not sent a copy to the group because I have not felt
it
>was appropriate. I have gone more than out of my way to try and help her
and
>have done it willingly. Despite that I felt that her comments were out of
line
>and felt I had to voice my opinion. I hope this clarifies the situation.
>
>Norman E.
> Jonathan Sibley wrote:
>
>> Listen, clearly English is not Edelina's native language, so at least
give
>> her a break if she makes some grammatical, spelling, and vocabulary
mistakes.
>>
>> Ask yourself if you could write as much in a foreign language, whether
the
>> content is "right" or "wrong".
>>
>> I certainly won't agree with her assessment, but I can understand what
she
>> means, and if I want to correct her English, I'll do it offline.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jonathan Sibley
>>
>> At 11:53 AM 5/5/99 -0700, Norman E. Phair wrote:
>> >
>> >suddenly after 7 days the market is prevised to be @top
>> >
>> >this is a little bit undigestible !!! even as a
>> >prevision.
>> >
>> >7 days without any major unprevisible EVENT cannot
>> >change
>> >drastic the price.
>> >
>>
>...........................................................................
.
>> >...........................
>> >
>> >Edelina:
>> >
>> >When you are playing the market one can change their
>> >mind when they want to. I have a long term money
>> >manager who trades mutual funds for me. Yes, even
>> >though I was in "this business" for over 35 years. He
>> >went long in December 1994. A few days later he sold
>> >out on Thursday, bought back 50% on Friday and the
>> >balance on Monday. He stayed long until now with 2
>> >round term trades in-between.
>> >
>> >It takes a disciplined person to be able to admit he
>> >was wrong and switch direction. That is what my MM did
>> >(Terry Laundry) . That is what Earl did. You should
>> >be thanking him not lambasting him.
>> >
>> >How many brokers that put you in a stock would call you
>> >up 7 days later and tell you to sell at a loss?
>> >Verrrrrrrrrrrrry few.
>> >
>> >I do not think "this investors" (who ever you think
>> >that is ) would be buying at the 1379 top you
>> >mentioned. If he had been following Earl they would
>> >already be long. It would not be YOU because you trade
>> >futures.
>> >
>> >Your quote "medium poor investor" is a little
>> >confusing. Is he medium done
>> >as in cooked? If he is poor he should be working, no
>> >internet and put his meager saving in mutual funds.
>> >
>> >You said " I have been loosing money exactly because of
>> >such extremes previsions." Previsions is not an
>> >english language word. My email to you to get a
>> >clarification went unanswered. I think you mean
>> >something like
>> >predictions.
>> >
>> >TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. You are not
>> >paying Earl, do your own work. I have said and many
>> >others have said on here, making money trading is hard
>> >work. If you have an idea and Earl agrees you can
>> >follow your nose. Earl and everyone else on here is
>> >doing us a big favor with their comments and opinions.
>> >Not everyone contributes. I guess because they have
>> >discovered the HG and do not want to share it.
>> >HaHAHaHaHa..
>> >
>> >I understand you subscribe to many web pages. How many
>> >of these did you lambaste when they were wrong.
>> >
>> >You said seven days without a major EVENT. I assume
>> >you mean news.
>> >I could write a term paper on that statement.
>> >
>> >1. I believe Earl is a technician, technicians do not
>> >usually factor news into their analysis.
>> >2. I do not read financial news of any kind because
>> >you can not believe most of it and what you
>> >may like to believe is probably bs. ( I could
>> >write an essay on this)
>> >3. Technicians let the market tell them what to do.
>> >This is a simplified statement to a complex subject.
>> > 4. Technicians may watch the markets reaction to
>> >news and trade opposite to the move created by the
>> >news. I.E.: Buy on bad news, sell on good news.
>> >
>> >In closing , TG, I think you should be thankful that
>> >Earl gives you his comments FREE. I have dedicated a
>> >file folder in my mail folder as of today to Earl' s
>> >pearls of wisdom. I will continue to learn until they
>> >hammer in the last nail and I will post my meager
>> >comments when I get a flash.
>> >
>> >
>> >Norman E. .
>> >
>> >Earl Adamy wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think the word you wanted is "refer" rather than
>> >> "refere". This is the second time you have composed
>> >> such a message and used my name in the subject. This
>> >> is not the kind of message which contributes to a
>> >> positive environment for the exchange of ideas. I
>> >> suggest that the next time you feel compelled to
>> >> compose such a message that you press the <Delete>
>> >> button instead of the <Send> button. Had you taken
>> >> the time to carefully read my most recent post
>> >> instead of firing up a message reply, you would have
>> >> found there is no such inconsistency. I expect the
>> >> equity markets to go considerably higher in spite of
>> >> some technicals. "Technical work still points to
>> >> 117-118 area into mid-May. While I have
>> >> indications of a top in equities, I don't think this
>> >> market is going to just
>> >> fade away, I think it is going to go out in a
>> >> spectacle of fireworks which
>> >> we have yet to see. And when the day does come,
>> >> treasuries and foreign
>> >> currencies may offer some opportunities." I trade
>> >> futures for a living and use mutual funds for
>> >> investment. I follow the markets where they lead - I
>> >> never fight the tape. However, I have no hesitation
>> >> to stand aside when the markets do not fit my trading
>> >> or investment style. I have made no secret of the
>> >> fact that I consider the US equity markets vastly
>> >> overvalued and very dangerous. This does not mean
>> >> they will not go higher - I continue to expect that
>> >> the S&P will come close to the 1600 area and have
>> >> said as much since the S&P was in the 1000 (many here
>> >> will remember my historical S&P channel chart dating
>> >> from the 1920's). I have made no secret of the fact
>> >> that while I continue to trade the S&P futures both
>> >> long and short, my investment accounts have been out
>> >> of US equities. It was last fall when all the talking
>> >> heads were panning Asia that I first indicated I was
>> >> making a major long term commitments to Asia based
>> >> mutual funds because I felt they offered tremendous
>> >> risk/reward opportunities (up over 50%). I
>> >> subsequently followed up with an analysis of the
>> >> Nikkei and indicated that the Yen should bear
>> >> watching for signs of a decline against the dollar.
>> >> Earlier this year (when the talking heads said oil
>> >> was going to $8 a barrel) I suggested that energy
>> >> funds appeared to offer significant opportunities (up
>> >> over 80%) and about six weeks ago I indicated that my
>> >> XAU system had issued a rare buy (up 27% in a month).
>> >> About a month ago I indicated that I thought bonds
>> >> had bottomed and that I had made a major commitment
>> >> to long term bond positions, however I reversed
>> >> course quickly (0.4% loss) when the bond market
>> >> failed to follow through, then indicated bonds would
>> >> likely break to 117-118 area well before the bond
>> >> market reversed a few days ago. Some months ago I
>> >> posted several days worth of futures trades, complete
>> >> with detailed technical analysis, in real-time which
>> >> turned out a very nice profit on two out of three
>> >> trades in just a few days. In summary, I'm far from
>> >> infallible, however I do rather nicely without taking
>> >> much risk and I support my own trades and investments
>> >> with my own analysis. I've had spells of S&P trading
>> >> where as many as 70% of my trades have been wrong but
>> >> have made still made money by controlling losses
>> >> tightly and letting the winners run. I always have a
>> >> benchmark which indicates when my analysis is wrong
>> >> and don't hesitate to reverse course. Nor do I
>> >> hesitate to disagree with the conventional wisdom of
>> >> the talking heads. I contribute more than raw
>> >> opinions here, I post charts and analysis. I do so,
>> >> not for compensation, but in the hope of helping
>> >> others in the same manner as others have helped me. I
>> >> make no claims to infallibility and those who read
>> >> what I post should perform their own analysis. What I
>> >> don't post here are any "holy grail" indicators or
>> >> systems because there are none. The only group (and
>> >> it is a very large one) with which I take strong
>> >> exception are those who believe that they can be
>> >> successful traders or investors without understanding
>> >> the markets. Those who believe that success lies in
>> >> some combination of hardware/software, some black box
>> >> system, some guru, or some chat room will ultimately
>> >> have their collective clocks cleaned! Earl
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Edelina
>> >> To: RealTraders Discussion Group
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 3:00 PM
>> >> Subject: I refere to earl adamy "june bonds
>> >> " message
>> >> dear earl adamy, I respect your work.but
>> >> it is better you send few messages and
>> >> specially those which not contraryone the
>> >> other in a laps of 7 days. one week ago the
>> >> sp500 was 1372 and you were prevising an
>> >> explosion to the 1400-1600area..... now in
>> >> your last message . you telling that you
>> >> see a top in equities.and as a good
>> >> politician you keep changing from equity to
>> >> the bond market. My GOD if only I have the
>> >> courage to tell peoples my previsionsall of
>> >> them will become rich .but I am still
>> >> without courage.and I am keeping to wonder
>> >> peoples like you who have even the courage
>> >> towrite contrarian messages. I understand
>> >> that every one has and is free to express
>> >> his prevision on the market.BUT he must
>> >> take care of contrarian previsions very
>> >> often. PLEASE refere to the message with
>> >> title JUNE BONDS.
>> >>
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