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Hi George,

Sorry, I am quite late in replying to the responses to my post on the 
“trend determining methodology”. I'm answering your questions in the 
order you put them.

Yes, even I take interday positions in large liquid equities, and I use 
the movement of local bechmark index—the Bombay Stock Exchange Sensitive 
Index, popularly known as the BSE Sensex—as confirmation. For me, my 
desired price level matters more than any particular time of day. The 
time of day matters only on the day of the settlement. Generally, on the 
settlement day, wide price fluctuations take place because of the 
expected contango charges.

As for using certain indicators as filters, I use some short-term 
overbought-oversold indicators like stochastics or some variation of 
Williams'’%R. This variation of Williams'’%R is written in Metastock 
6.52. I’m providing that on a separate post to the list. In range bound 
situations, I use the extremes of overbought-oversold readings in the 
oscillators, and when the price gives the signal the trade is taken.

ADX does not give the direction of the next move, neither does RAVI, 
Tushar Chande’s Range Action Verifying Index. Both can be used to 
identify set ups. Actually, ADX when used in conjunction with +DI and 
–DI can indicate the build-up of large sustained swings. If the ADX 
indicator languishes below both +DI and –DI for a long period (say more 
than a couple of months), a sustained swing is likely.

Crossovers in Variable Moving Averages (VMA) does have predictive value. 
I normally use 8 and 21-period VMAs on the daily chart. Bullish and 
bearish crossovers have intermediate-term implications. Normally, the 
bullish (short-term piercing the long-term from below and vice versa) 
and bearish crossovers confirm the change of momentum. However, the real 
efficacy of this type of moving average comes from its changing 
direction upward or downward when the market in question has a direction 
or else it remains flat.

The Standard Error Bands (SEB) and the r-squared indicators have 
discussed in detail in an article by Jon Anderson in Technical Analysis 
of Stocks and Commodities (Vol. 14 issue #9—pp.375 – 378). If you don’t 
get a copy of the article, I can provide a summary of that. However, 
these indicators do not have anything to do with Gann time theory. Both 
these indicators are found in MetaStock 6.0 or higher, and the help 
provided does give some idea of those indicators.

So far as choosing Fibonacci retracement levels are concerned I draw 
several of them taking several tops and bottoms. I have not been able to 
reduce it to a common methodology that can be used in all circumstances 
irrespective of securities. I have by now developed a personal feel as 
to which ones would be the most suitable.

I am completely in agreement with your observations on Fibs of the last 
leg and the whole move. The Fib retracement of the last leg of any bull 
or bear run can be used to project the length of the next bear or bull 
move. This is done by multiplying the length of the last leg by Fib 
ratios 1.618, 2.618 and 4.236 or even higher.

Stochastic pops do give a confirmation that a strong trend is place. 
When you find both ADX and smoothed r-squared are rising, stochastic 
pops in the overbought or oversold zones do confirm that further higher 
or lower prices (as the case may be) ahead and one can take trades in 
direction of the trend. 

For volatility, I primarily use Tushar Chande’s volatility based short 
and long stop bands and along with that the historical volatility 
formula developed by Laurence Connors & Linda Raschke in an article 
published in Technical Analysis of Stocks and Commodities (Vol. 14 issue 
#8, pp 338 – 341).

Well, it may appear that I overanalyze. Maybe, I am. However, the whole 
things is very simple since I have developed several templates in 
MetaStock which do job. And I am quite comfortable with the whole thing.

The two observations of BOTTrader are quite valid.

Given below are the MetaStock formula for RAVI (asked by BOTTrader)

Prd1:=  Input("Short Term MA Period", 3, 13, 7); 
Prd2:= Input("Long Term MA Period", 34, 200, 65); 

Abs(100*(Mov(C,Prd1,S)-Mov(C,Prd2,S))/Mov(C,Prd2,S))


Please feel free to seek more clarifications if you so require.

Thank you for your patience to read such a lengthy post.


Rajat K Bose

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