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<DIV><FONT size=2>Linda,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I found the "online book" at <FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.futuresmag.com/library/phantom/phantom.html">http://www.futuresmag.com/library/phantom/phantom.html</A> </FONT>regarding
futures trading very helpful to me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I think you might find it helpful as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Let me know what you think.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>David</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
Linda Swope
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RealTraders Discussion Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 11, 1999 2:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Gen: question about stops</DIV>
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<DIV>Is anyone trading whereby the trade must prove itself immediately or
you're out? I've tried super tight stops and,yes, I kept getting stopped
out immediately. I've tried generous support as stops and it blew right
through. I want to take into account some market noise, but if I think I
just bought into a change of trend (after a small retracement) and the trend
doesn't prove itself, how quick should I get out? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As I read price more than indicators, sometimes my gut says bail, but my
stop is sitting on a logical support level. Do I follow my gut and bail
rather than take the hit my methodology is about to deliver me? Comments
please. Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV>Linda</DIV>
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<DIV>linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Climb
the mountains & get their glad tidings: Peace will flow into you as
sunshine into flower; the winds will blow their freshness into you &
storms their energy, & cares will drop off you like autumn leaves. John
Muir 1838 - 1914</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT face="Arial Black">Hi again
Linda,</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face="Arial Black"></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT face="Arial Black">One more
thing.... You wrote:</FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Arial Black"></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>But back to my original question... by making a trade prove itself, are
you stopped out often yet don't find yourself being whipsawed?
Obviously this fits your plan well. I'd appreciate your insight.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial Black" size=2>You do not make a trade
prove itself. The market either proves that your entry was correctly
timed, or it proves the opposite. Your choice of wording in this
question underscores the shortcoming which results in failure for those who
do fail - as I certainly would have failed, had I not stepped away and
intensely studied the psychological reasons for my having incurred large
losses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial Black" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial Black" size=2>Keep a log of your
entries and exits, reasons for each, what you were thinking about at the
time, and whether there were any outside factors which may have influenced
your decision (such as fatigue, overconfidence, attempt to recover earlier
losses in the session, desire to ride "the big wave" perceived in
a stock, etc.) Such reflection of past trades will highlight when you
should and should not trade and set you on a path of self-reflection which
will undoubtedly pay big dividends in both your trading approach and your
life.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial Black" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial Black" size=2>Best
regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial Black" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Arial Black" size=2>Paul
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From: Dick Webb <dickwebb711@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Globex Nasdaq / S&P Sell-off
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David
Below is what Jaenisch, who has written a lot of
Andrews articles has posted on
Betterjob.net/newtonin.htm
If you look at the charts at where these signals
occured it appears to be a considerable track record.
Someone mentioned that this Andrews list was posted to
this list last October. Did anyone see it?
October 9 We have a Newton + ...Buy signal in the S&P
500. A few week ago there was a buy alert in the
Reinhart MS indicator. This indicator says get ready
and then a test of the lows if the lows hold ok then
it's up we go. It is over 75% reliable. It has had
about 10 signals in the last 15 years.
October 27 Yesterday there was a newton buy signal in
Bonds.
December 4 1998 there was a newton sell signal in
tbonds.
Febuary 3,1999. Bonds have come down about 5% . If
prices turn up from here
there is a Newton signal failure. This is in effect a
signal.
Feb 10 there is an irregular newton buy signal in S&P
and in the bonds the sell failure appears to be in
place.
March 22 there is a newton sell in the NDX and S&P
looks like it is going to a yet unconfirmed newton
sell this week.
April 10 we have a newton buy signal in silver and a
sell signal in the SP500. The S&P signal is at new
highs. These are not as reliable as signals in a
correction.
--- David Cazden <ratts@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dick Webb <dickwebb711@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: RealTraders Discussion Group
> <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 1999 8:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Globex Nasdaq / S&P Sell-off
>
>
> >
> > April 12 is the big turn day for Erman
> > theGoldenbox.com went short S&P
> > Jaenisch - Andrews technique went short S&P he had
> a
> > buy signal in the SnP october 8.
>
> Hello. I've been reading realtraders for a while
> and kept pretty quiet, but
> I noticed in your post a reference
> to Jaenisch-Andrews, and I am very interested in
> Andrews techniques...so I
> wondered if you could
> point me in a direction, so to speak, of further
> knowledge. Thanks.
>
> Dave
>
>
===
Big Lucky Dick
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