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Linda, please cc me on the excel topic. I am very intersted.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Singerman <davids@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Future of trading data/software
>I agree,
>
>Thanks Earl!!
>
>Quote.com has solved many problems I have been having been having with data
>feeds and software!
>
>Linda,
>
>Can you give a quick run down on how you are using Qfeed to update Excel?
>
>Thanks.
>
>David
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Linda Swope <lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 1:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Future of trading data/software
>
>
>> Thanks Earl!!!!!!
>>
>> Earl's glowing evaluation of Quote.COM's QCharts came at a time when I
was
>> in a frustrating trial period with Signal. I was trying to use Signal
>with
>> Metastock Pro and kept losing my connection. Bars were missing from my
>> charts, making it all worthless. So I gave them both the boot and signed
>up
>> for Quote.com. Other than missing drawing tools, I love it! The TA
tools
>> are better than Signal. And QFeed feeds into my Excel chart that
>calculates
>> Fib at the same time I'm running charts. And it hasn't missed a beat
>yet...
>> no lost connections. Even the price was right!
>>
>> Wish everything were this easy!
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Climb the mountains & get their glad tidings: Peace will flow into you as
>> sunshine into flower; the winds will blow their freshness into you &
>storms
>> their energy, & cares will drop off you like autumn leaves. John Muir
>1838 -
>> 1914
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Future of trading data/software
>>
>>
>> >Some of you will remember that last year I embarked upon a journey away
>> from
>> >what I considered to be poor quality, poorly supported Omega products. I
>> >thought I'd found something better in TradeLab but it was repeatedly
>> delayed
>> >and in due course, with the millennium approaching, I moved on to
>evaluate
>> >other products. In the course of that journey I tried internet based
data
>
>> >feeds and software and found them wanting (to be charitable). I also
>tried
>> >quite a bit of software I'd never looked at before. In due course, I
>> settled
>> >on DTN satellite and Ensign, however my HOA forced me to get rid of the
>DTN
>> >dish and then my cable company dropped CSPAN2 which carried DTN cable.
>> >Having considerable confidence in Ensign and quite a large body of
custom
>> >Ensign trading code, I looked around for an Ensign compatible data feed
>and
>> >my only remaining choice was Signal On-Line real-time. Not only was SOL
>> >considerably more expensive than DTN satellite/cable, but I found the
>> >customer service to be atrocious and no delayed quotes are provided for
>any
>> >exchanges for which I do not hold real-time exchange agreements (over
>$200
>> >month for all futures exchanges). Ensign/SOL does provide 3 days of tick
>> >data which can be used to fill in gaps or initialize a chart, however
>this
>> >is not enough to get a 40 or 60 minute chart up to speed and historical
>> data
>> >beyond the 3 days is not available.
>> >
>> >Through a combination of circumstances, I recently looked at quote.com's
>> >QCharts/QFeed service. I was really turned off by no response to several
>> >questions I e-mailed to quote.com "support" but several users kept
saying
>> >how great the service is so, I persevered and signed up for the $80
month
>> >QCharts service. The internet data feed (called QFeed) includes
real-time
>> >indexes and delayed feeds from all major exchanges. Wanting to get the
>best
>> >possible feel for the future of this kind of service, I decided to try
>the
>> >QCharts 2.1 beta software in lieu of using the existing 1.0 version -
the
>> >beta software version is available to all subscribers.
>> >
>> >WOW! Imagine a data feed where you never have to worry about the data -
>all
>> >data for all symbols in all time periods is available on demand. When
the
>> >charting software (QCharts or any QFeed compatible software) asks for a
>set
>> >of bars, the QFeed servers deliver them on demand in sufficient quantity
>to
>> >fill the chart from left to right and scrolling left delivers more bars.
>> For
>> >example, my "Indexes" layout includes charts for several different
>symbols
>> >across 1/2/9/45 minute and daily time frames all updating in real-time
as
>> >each bar is completed as well as a quote page with the latest prices.
>Tick
>> >charts are available, however multi-tick charts e.g. 20 tick bars are
not
>> >(yet) available. The QC status bar shows which QF server is being used
>and
>> >the delay to hundredths of seconds in receiving quotes. If one QF
server
>> >has trouble or the connection degrades, QF is programmed to switch to
>> >alternate QF servers. If you lose your ISP connection, you will get a
>fresh
>> >set of charts when you log back into QF. The QCharts software I'm using
>is
>> >not browser based, is extremely well-designed, and is very easy to use.
>> >Although it still lacks a few features (drawing tools and custom
studies)
>> >which many traders will want; I would expect to see these features in
the
>> >not too distant future. The QFeed included with QCharts provides the
>> ability
>> >to access the data feed directly from many development languages
>including
>> >VB and the QLink utility enables Excel to use the data feed for
real-time
>> >calculations.
>> >
>> >As an indication of performance, I have a currencies layout which
>includes
>> a
>> >quote page with front and next contracts for the major currencies, 5
>minute
>> >chart, 40 minute chart and daily chart. With the June DMark displayed,
>> >clicking on the June Yen in the quote page reloads the bars in all 3
>charts
>> >with data for the Yen in about 7 seconds. Switching from my Currencies
>> >layout to Indexes layout which includes two quote pages, June S&P 2/9/45
>> and
>> >daily charts, June E-Mini 1 minute chart, and premium chart, required
>about
>> >15 seconds before all charts were loaded with bars. I've got a full load
>of
>> >apps open on my "ancient" p133 with 128 meg running WinNT 4: SOL Data
>> >Manager (7 meg, 2% CPU), Ensign32 (18meg 8% CPU), QCharts (29meg, 8%
CPU)
>+
>> >other apps including TextPad, Ecco, Outlook Express, and SuperCharts 4
>EOD.
>> >The memory and CPU usage shown for the real-time apps are for comparable
>> >index layouts. Task manager is consistently showing 75% CPU idle and 80
>meg
>> >of unused physical memory.
>> >
>> >Is QCharts/QFeed the be all and end all? Not yet, anyway, but it
>certainly
>> >shows where the future is going in trading software and data feeds. And
>> that
>> >future is not in data feeds costing $2000-4000 annually (without data
>> >refresh or exchange fees) or in high priced stand-alone software
>behemoths
>> >requiring the fastest available processors and prodigious amounts of
>> memory.
>> >Based on the improvements I've seen in internet data feeds and software
>> >during the past 12 months, I would expect to see several extremely
>powerful
>> >internet based datafeed/software combinations available within 6 months
>at
>> >very modest monthly cost. I would not look for these products from the
>> major
>> >established data feed and software vendors.
>> >
>> >Earl
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