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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Would anyone care to comment on Trin?&nbsp; Right now 
it's at 1.12.&nbsp; What does that mean to you and how do you use that 
information in your trading? I trade stocks... what does it mean to 
me?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time to answer all my 
questions!</DIV>
<DIV>TGIF!</DIV>
<DIV>Linda</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><BR><A 
href="mailto:linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Climb the 
mountains &amp; get their glad tidings: Peace will flow into you as sunshine 
into flower; the winds will blow their freshness into you &amp; storms their 
energy, &amp; cares will drop off you like autumn leaves. John Muir 1838 - 
1914</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Neal:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>There are enough rules to cover their ++%^&amp;*(&nbsp; every 
which way till</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sunday.&nbsp; Like redeeming shares 'in kind' under adverse 
market </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>conditions; or not redeeming them at all.&nbsp; This only 
about the 4th</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>time I have gotton the shaft--each time it just feels a little 
different.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for your heads up.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Charles</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Neal Hughes &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>RealTraders Discussion Group &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Friday, March 19, 1999 2:49 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: LEGAL 
    RECOURSE<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>At 01:05 PM 3/19/99 -0600, charles meyer wrote: 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><BR><?/smaller><?/fontfamily><?smaller>Group:<BR><?/smaller><BR><?smaller>I'm 
        a bit calmer now, especially after getting my message to the 
        portfolio<BR>manager at Strong Funds that he is not honorable and cannot 
        be trusted.<BR>I placed an order yesterday afternoon. Then, after the 
        market closed one<BR>of the supervisors called me back this morning 
        saying the portfolio manager<BR>would not accept my order for frequent 
        trading. Do I have any recorse ex-<BR>cept from becoming irate and 
        venting. Now, that is not a recourse only<BR>venting--but I certainly 
        feel better. I told them that Wall Street was based<BR>on 'your word is 
        your bond' and they should have told me my money was<BR>restricted 
        BEFORE I tried to trade and that they were screwing with my<BR>money. 
        Thanks for listening and allowing me to vent.<BR><?/smaller><BR><?smaller>Charles 
    <BR><?/smaller><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<BR><BR>Charles, is the 
    &quot;frequent trading&quot; rule a new rule implemented<BR>without advising 
    you AFTER you'd already given them your<BR>money? Or was it an existing rule 
    in place BEFORE you gave<BR>them your money? <BR><BR>If it was an existing 
    rule, and you didn't bother to<BR>understand the rules, then the fund 
    manager is not going<BR>to take much interest in what you have to 
    say.<BR><BR>Either way, you've learned another aspect of fund 
    trading!<BR><BR>-Neal.<BR><BR><BR>-----------------<BR>Neal on the 
    'net.<BR>Trade well. Train hard.<BR>http://www.halcyon.com/neal/ 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Neal:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>There are enough rules to cover their ++%^&amp;*(&nbsp; every 
which way till</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sunday.&nbsp; Like redeeming shares 'in kind' under adverse 
market </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>conditions; or not redeeming them at all.&nbsp; This only 
about the 4th</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>time I have gotton the shaft--each time it just feels a little 
different.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for your heads up.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Charles</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Neal Hughes &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>RealTraders Discussion Group &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Friday, March 19, 1999 2:49 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: LEGAL 
    RECOURSE<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>At 01:05 PM 3/19/99 -0600, charles meyer wrote: 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><BR><?/smaller><?/fontfamily><?smaller>Group:<BR><?/smaller><BR><?smaller>I'm 
        a bit calmer now, especially after getting my message to the 
        portfolio<BR>manager at Strong Funds that he is not honorable and cannot 
        be trusted.<BR>I placed an order yesterday afternoon. Then, after the 
        market closed one<BR>of the supervisors called me back this morning 
        saying the portfolio manager<BR>would not accept my order for frequent 
        trading. Do I have any recorse ex-<BR>cept from becoming irate and 
        venting. Now, that is not a recourse only<BR>venting--but I certainly 
        feel better. I told them that Wall Street was based<BR>on 'your word is 
        your bond' and they should have told me my money was<BR>restricted 
        BEFORE I tried to trade and that they were screwing with my<BR>money. 
        Thanks for listening and allowing me to vent.<BR><?/smaller><BR><?smaller>Charles 
    <BR><?/smaller><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<BR><BR>Charles, is the 
    &quot;frequent trading&quot; rule a new rule implemented<BR>without advising 
    you AFTER you'd already given them your<BR>money? Or was it an existing rule 
    in place BEFORE you gave<BR>them your money? <BR><BR>If it was an existing 
    rule, and you didn't bother to<BR>understand the rules, then the fund 
    manager is not going<BR>to take much interest in what you have to 
    say.<BR><BR>Either way, you've learned another aspect of fund 
    trading!<BR><BR>-Neal.<BR><BR><BR>-----------------<BR>Neal on the 
    'net.<BR>Trade well. Train hard.<BR>http://www.halcyon.com/neal/ 
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John,

Here is an explanation of what the VIX is from "Connors on Advance
Trading Strategies" by Larry Connors:

"The VIX reflects a market consensus estimate of future volatility
based on "at-the-money" quotes of OEX index options.  Periods of low
volatility (a low VIX reading) basically reflect a quiet rising
market, whereas periods of high volatility (a high VIX reading)are
associated with sharp market sell offs.

The VIX is a contrary indicator. The higher its reading (and hence the
more fear in the market), the more likely the market is reaching a
short-term bottom, and the lower the reading, the more likely the
market is reaching a short term top."

I have been using it to time the S&P or DOW for the short term using
CVR (Connors Vix Reversal) system, as explained in the book I took
this excerpt from.  The CVR signals have been pretty accurate,
especially when you have two or more of the CVR's going in the same
direction.  The formulas are pretty straight forward, however on his
site Tradehard, he calculates the CVR's for you on a daily basis.

JS






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<p>What is the VIX and how do you use it?
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