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<DIV><FONT size=2>Group:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Just sharing this information FWIW. Judging my Ned's
responses to my</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>questions I'm surprised he is not in politics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Charles</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Ned Gandevani <<A
href="mailto:Gandevani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Gandevani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>charles meyer <<A
href="mailto:chmeyer@xxxxxxxx";>chmeyer@xxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Wednesday, March 10, 1999 9:30 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: FORM
CONFIRMATION<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Dear Charles:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Thanks for your interest in
Winning Edge S&P Day Trading Strategies. In regards with your
questions, I call your attention to the following notes:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>>I please have some questions about your services and will
>present them according to<BR>>the sequence read and parsed from your
web<BR>>pages in the following order of subjects.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>>Profit Target: "When you evaluate a day<BR>>trading
methodology you need to see a higher percentage >of winning trades with
relative small losses." Indeed, your >track
record<BR>>indicates an average monthly winning percentage of >almost 80%
from December, '97<BR>>through February, '99. How is such an
im-<BR>>pressive win percentage achieved when market<BR>>lore suggests
that over the short term the markets are >random? Especially, since
this<BR>>high win percentage is not achieved from position trading
>systems? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I guess the answer to your question would
require me to go over through the fundamentals of my methodology and approach to
the capital markets including S&P market. Is it possible to profit
form "short term random" that's the mission of about 85% day traders
in the S&P market. Without going into details about my methodology (
I'm sure you'd understand), let me just illustrate how we could utilize a simple
but powerful concept in dealing with humans and subsequently S&P market
participants as well. Take a look at your own life. You would notice
that you go through ALMOST a fixed and constant habitual rituals. You get
up at some specific time in the morning, you take your shower and have breakfast
and so. Everyday, you and I and almost all go through a set of habitual
patterns and behavior. Now, I bet with somebody who doesn't know you
as mush as I, would you say, I have higher odds to my favor in my bet. Doe
it mean that I could exactly "predict or forecast" your
behavior. Not at all. Or at least I don't dare to claim that.
But, I do have a high probability in my bets with other people. Why were I
able to do so. As mentioned before, I have been utilizing an amazing
character of human nature. We're the creature of habits. We need to
live within our comfort zone, getting away from our comfort zone ( read habitual
patterns and behavior) creates a cognitive dissonance and quite discomfort for
us. So we'd stay within those habitual parameters.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>Finally, do you provide any documented evidence that >your real time
results are the same as the track record >posted? Restated, how can
your<BR>>clients be sure that you even take any of the trades? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Any prospective students should due his or her
due diligence before taking my course or anyone else. No, I do not
provide any "documented evidence" to prove my case. Although, I
could see why you could be skeptical, which is good and healthy. And I
encourage you to do so. This hopefully gives you a better cushion in
sorting good courses from better ones. However, I have some concern about
a similar approach regarding the results of the originator of the a trading
system or methodology. My concern is that some people may think that if
the originator of a trading method has a great performance, automatically, they
could and should have the same results as well. My problem with this
notion is it doesn't consider the important factor of one's or trader's
psychology. For that matter, you may or may not agree, that if you give
"the holy grail" to someone, he or she not only couldn't make money,
he would lose as well. In my view there are two important pillars in
successful trading, one the trading method and the other trader's
psychology. These two factors interact with each other in a virtual circle
fashion. One reduces or increases the effect of the other
one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>But, what I offer is several
things;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>1. One week free trial of my
signals. This should, at least give you some idea how good or awful my
signals are. These signals, are not after market action or hindsight, they
would be sent to you after market openness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2. A student could come to my office and see me
trading. That should be a sufficient proof. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>>After all, at your prices, you probably earn enough from the >web
site that you don't have to take any trades.<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It all depends on your calculations and the cost of living.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>Commission Costs:....."real floor access"...<BR>>Assuming
you are taking these trades, you must have an >order entry method you can
re-<BR>>commend; either through a discount broker
or<BR>>otherwise?<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I'm sorry I don't understand what you're saying
or what you're asking.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Equipment Requirements: Are there any tool-<BR>box indicators
available on the various software packages which are necessary for
the<BR>purpose of learning your methodology? <BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>No, By "Equipment Requirements"
I refer to Real Time data, charting programs. You could trade my
methodology on any charting program you wish without any indicators!
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>Personality: "Is your makeup best suited to<BR>>position
or day trading"? You mention per-<BR>>sonality tests,
perfectionistic types etc.<BR>>although the bottom line seems to be
the<BR>>ability to think in odds and probabilities<BR>>realizing that
losing is simply a cost or part of doing >business. How can we
know<BR>>BEFORE we spend $3,200? <BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>My friend. My article has been written to
help people like you which may not be quite clear on the necessities of day
trading. Either you take my course or not, as a day trader, you should be
able to go through those factors mentioned in my article as guideline to see if
you're suited for day trading. Then if you decide you could and have the
essential capabilities for day trading, then create your own trading method and
trade your favorite market.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>Personalized System: "In brief, to insure the success of a
>trading system or method-<BR>>odology, you must select or create a
system<BR>>that is compatible with your personality and
individuality." >How can you methodology<BR>>be 'one size that
fits all' to use a taylor-<BR>>ing analogy. Restated, how do I know
that<BR>>MY personality is compatible with YOUR
<BR>>methodology.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>It's a big mistake to feel and believe that one
size fits all. This clearly indicates that you're disregarding the
psychology factor. How could you be succeeful in a trading method which
may require you take 10 -20 trades. While you're very slow in making
decsions or may hate to making too many decions in aday. This should help
you first in choosing a trading method that doe not require you to make many
decions. But the same trading method could create a devastating resluts
for another trader who must make or would like to make many trading decions in a
day. That's why it's so crucial to match and choose a trading method which
is compatible with your personality. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>>Why do you not offer to deduct the $3,200<BR>>from trading profits
to insure that your<BR>>clients do not squander their money if
they<BR>>are not able to benefit from your course
or<BR>>service?<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Doing so, could imply that I guarantee or
promise your success in day trading, in general. No can't do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>>I apologize in advance if my questions seem<BR>>brutal or tactless;
but total honesty<BR>>is the only way I know to get my points across.
Apart from >that if I spend $3,200<BR>>I want to insure that I get value
for my<BR>>money.<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Asking questions would always enlighten the
topic. However, to have a cynical view or predetermined view before
hearing one's answer would not make the research a due diligence, honest or fact
seeking one.</FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>Thanks for any feedback you can provide.<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>You're welcome. Hope was
helpful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Best, Ned </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>charles meyer <<A
href="mailto:chmeyer@xxxxxxxx";>chmeyer@xxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To: </B><A
href="mailto:ned@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ned@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> <<A
href="mailto:ned@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ned@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Tuesday, March 09, 1999 1:35 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>FORM
CONFIRMATION<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Dear Sir:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Can you please reply with my 'Comments' on the same
page? I should</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>have done it via e-mail. Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Charles</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I am in need of a continuos chart, 5-10 years, daily, weekly
or monthly of the LIBOR or the Yield on the LIBOR. I couldn't find this in the
usual places, if you know an on-line source, that would work as
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks in advance. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I would like to think that Charles' Q&A with
Ned would be incentive enough to steer clear of a program that is so obviously
vague and misleading. Again and again, ask yourself why any successful
daytrader would go out of his way and charge you $3,200(a ridiculous sum of
money) to learn his system. He even admits that many people do not have
the pschological make-up to daytrade. Then, after that he says he will not
produce any brokerage statements confirming his profitability, what a
joke!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>If I were to ever solicit my services to the
public and ask hard working people to fork over 3k, I would post the numbers I
was making in the market. Hopefully, if they were huge numbers I would not
have to sell anything besides the fact that I was extremely successful.
Unfortunately, the band of hucksters that fill the printed pages and airwaves
with all of their curvefitted, untimely services steal money from people who
have no business daytrading anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I apologize if I have offended anybody with my
two cents worth. But believe me, I have had it with all of these people
who are so obviously in the business of stealing money.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Pete Beckwith</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Chicago, IL</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Any Metastock whizzes out there? This shouldn't
be that hard, but I can find no documentation anywhere in Metastock help or
website. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>I know how to plot a displaced moving average on a
chart. What I'm trying to do is write it as an indicator formula to add to
an expert commentary. Metastock calls the displacement action a
"horizontal shift", but those words are nowhere else to be found in
their help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Let's say I wanted a 10 period moving average displaced 3 periods.
Anybody know how I would write it?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Linda<BR>Swope's Mountain Photography<BR><A
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into flower; the winds will blow their freshness into you & storms their
energy, & cares will drop off you like autumn leaves. John Muir 1838 -
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In a message dated 3/16/99 1:39:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
<< Fischer figures you take the length of the retracement, multiply it and add
it to C. >>
Linda:
Just to clarify the procedure, for Fischer are you again multiplying by the
same factors .618, 1 and 1.618 which are used by DiNapoli? Also what time
frames are you using such as 5 min, daily etc.
Lynn
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