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Re: FUT hiatus from spoo (LC/GC/BP)



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Final word on this series of trades. The short in live cattle LCJ9 seemed to
stall on downside so I covered shortly after the open at 6642 for a 195
profit or about $800/contract. The long in British Pound BPM9 worked out to
about 238 or about $1500/contract and the long in gold GCM9 worked out to
<110> or about <$110/contract> after screwing up on setting a stop which
should have netted a 200-300 profit.

I think the lesson here is that if one learns to read the price action,
someone who day trades the s&p can put position trades on in 3 different
commodities, never before traded, and walk away with good profits ... no
indicators, no systems, no holy grail, just 600 or so pages of Edwards and
Magee (Technical Analysis of Stock Trends, NY Institute of Finance) and a
smattering of Wyckoff and Crabel.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: FUT hiatus from spoo (LC/GC/BP)


>Got blown out of my long in gold (GCM9) today as price went right through
my
>breakeven stop for $1.10 in slippage. Right into Thursday, the strength of
>the rally gave every indication that it was well on track to meet price
>objectives. That led me to discount the importance of Thursday's island
>reversal and give the trade plenty of room. Thus, I allowed it to retrace
>the entire $8 run from entry instead of either a) exiting the trade on the
>close on Friday following the island reversal with $5 profit or b) raising
>the stop to at least $3 above entry. I think I was so focused on progress
>toward my $314 price objective that I failed to plan for an alternative.
>
>On the plus size, the short on live cattle (LCJ9) continues to move
>favorably. I was ready to exit the trade when it hit the 6670, area but
>price action on the 30 minute chart indicated that it had a bit (but not
>much) more to go on this first downside leg.
>
>It paid not to be greedy with the BP trade as I would have given back 2/3
of
>a very nice profit had I held out for higher prices. In fact, it looks like
>BP has completed a 3 day island reversal and it's time to get short.
>
>Earl
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 5:25 PM
>Subject: Re: FUT hiatus from spoo (LC/GC/BP)
>
>
>>Update on these three trades:
>>
>>Counter-trend short on LCJ9: all the little failure signals in LC finally
>>showed their true colors on Thursday as price reversed through the NR7ID
>>(3/5) and headed south closing below the trendline on the weekly. Friday's
>>decline was small but closed near the low. With extremely strong support
in
>>the 6660-6670 area I'm not going to push my luck. If the area holds LC
>could
>>be a good trade on long side.
>>
>>Counter-trend long on BPM9: spiked to 16420 on Thursday, well beyond my
>>initial objective. Although there should be a pullback and another leg up
>>here before any significant retracement, I held greed in check and exited
>>the next morning at 16335.
>>
>>Trend reversal long on GCM9: Thursday's spike to 298.20 turned into an
>>island reversal on Friday and I'm now looking for a pullback not exceeding
>>the 292 area. The strength of the second leg of this rally off the January
>>lows, suggests that the position is worth giving some breathing room with
>>breakeven stop at 290.10. Eye is on the weekly continuation chart for
>>breakout or failure of the weekly downtrend line.
>>
>>Looking around, the cocoa chart is trying to hold the 1200 area - could be
>>interesting. The yen might be interesting if it gets another strong
>pullback
>>without breaking the lows. Not sure I've got a handle on the grains but
>they
>>appear to be reversing into a correction which should give us some clues
>>regarding a bottom. Incomplete H&S top in Ru2000 could be an interesting
>>short on a break in the market.
>>
>>We continue to stand aside from the thrashing S&P futures however we may
>not
>>have to wait too long to get a trend to the downside. Absolute favorite
>>markets since last fall have been Asia - an idea which is finally gaining
>>some overdue recognition which could lead to an explosive rally as the
fast
>>money shifts its sights.
>>
>>Earl
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 11:51 AM
>>Subject: FUT hiatus from spoo (LC/GC/BP)
>>
>>
>>>After getting whip-sawed in my day trading last week as the spoo thrashed
>>>around, I'm having an interesting time position trading some stuff I've
>>>never traded before. Basically, with position trades I'm using weekly for
>>>trend, daily for pricing and 30-60 minute bars for entry. Unlike the
spoo,
>>>I'll leave these on a position trades with stops on all positions - entry
>>>price, initial stop and initial price objective are calculated prior to
>>>entry and the stops.
>>>
>>>Short LC9J at 68375 with initial stop at 68975 and price objective of
>>65500.
>>>Live cattle has been in a long uptrend since December and has recently
>>twice
>>>failed to make significant new highs so its looking tired and in need of
a
>>>correction. I'm trading the April contract because this is a short term
>>>counter-trend trade. Had a bit of a problem entering the trade because LC
>>>trades in 1/4 cent ticks but the pit accepts prices of 4 digits only so I
>>>missed a fill at  68425 because I should have entered it as 6842 - go
>>>figure! Of course the price immediately ran against me running quickly up
>>to
>>>68950 where it completed a double top and began to fall quickly. I was
>>>amazed that my stop just 1 tick (a whole $10) was not taken out! As I
>>>watched the price accelerate to upside, I was tempted to second guess my
>>>stop and save myself a few dollars but I decided that I'd planned the
>trade
>>>properly and should let the market take me out - turned out to be a good
>>>lesson in not over-managing a trade as price fell back to 68250. Hard to
>>>tell how this trade will turn out - I'm using half hour bars for entry
and
>>>it needs to get moving south or I'll scratch the trade.
>>>
>>>Long GC9M at 29010 with initial stop at 28400 and initial price objective
>>of
>>>29800 with possible target around 31400. Gold has been in a long down
>trend
>>>which appears to have based out with the beginning of a modest uptrend
and
>>>symmetrical triangles on both the daily and weekly charts. Also, the
>latest
>>>COT reports showed the commercials heavily long gold. I'm trading the
June
>>>contract because I felt this trade could run beyond expiration of the
>>>current front contract. This one moved quickly off the entry and I've
been
>>>able to adjust my stop upward twice.
>>>
>>>Long BP9M at 16096 with initial stop at 16014 and initial price objective
>>of
>>>16286. British Pound has been in a very long consolidation near highs for
>a
>>>long time, then recently broke down through trendline across this year's
>>>lows and has an established short term downtrend on the weekly chart.
This
>>>is a countertrend trade to catch the retracement although the COT report
>>>indicated that the commercials had moved heavily long providing an edge
to
>>>the trade. The June contract was the logical choice since March was
>>>expiring. The first rally off the low on the daily looked solid with a
>pair
>>>of NR7 days which caught my eye, also had noticed a very tight
>>consolidation
>>>on 30 minute chart between 16024 and 16096. I managed to diddle around
>>while
>>>entering my trade and missed getting my order in before it broke out
above
>>>16096 and quickly ran nearly 50 points. With an 82 point stop at my
>>proposed
>>>entry, I refused to chase it. I let the order sit hoping to catch a
>>>retracement back to the breakout and my patience was rewarded by a fill
>>just
>>>2 ticks above the retracement low. BP has never looked back - each day
has
>>>demonstrated strong thrust with little retracement so I am now
>reevaluating
>>>my price objective. I was able to adjust my stop upward a couple of hours
>>>after entry and again this morning however with such a strong performance
>>>I'm giving it plenty of room although I'm not forgetting that this is a
>>>counter trend trade.
>>>
>>>Earl
>>>
>>
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