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Linda,
I don't know much about computers, but all I can say is I got a new
computer with an ATI expert 8 meg AGP card, and I ordered a an ATI expert 8
meg PCI card an installed it myself and have had no problems with useing
two 21 inch monitors with the AGP and PCI cards! And I have talked to
others who have done the same with different cards. The cards I used cost
about $50 3 months ago?
At 04:58 PM 2/24/99 -0700, Linda Swope wrote:
>I read somewhere that both cards should be either PCI or AGP. I currently
>have an AGP card and an open PCI expansion slot. Now I'm confused... And is
>it any easier to take out the current card (I can use it to upgrade another
>computer I own) and get two identical ones for the dual monitor project?
>
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>1914
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 9:06 PM
>Subject: Re: hardware set up
>
>
>>Len,
>>
>>I agree with you if you want a bullet proof, 24/7 system then multiple
>>systems is the way to go, but then you have to deal with all those
>keyboards
>>and all the mice. That can be a nightmare if you day trade. Besides if
>you
>>are really concerned about equipment failure, you need to put in a hot swap
>>raid disk array to ensure data integrity, power backups and don't forget
>hot
>>swap power supplies and EEC memory, etc. I am not going to even the
>>operating system issues.
>>
>>The technology for duel monitors available in windows 98 is as good and as
>>reliable as other technologies in the PC environment.
>>Duel monitors in win98 is not the weak link in the system. The system I
>saw
>>was not at a trade show. It was the main system for a
>>former floor trader that is now trading off floor.
>>
>>I do agree with you that the Irq issue is significant. If there are many
>>cards already in the system, you need to find a real pro to set it up.
>More
>>then two monitors could get dicy when it comes to Irq's.
>>
>>And for the record len, I have worked for Dell computers, Zenith Data
>>Systems and ran a software consultancy for 5 years. Suffice it to say, I
>>know my way around a computer.
>>
>>I strongly recommend anyone considering multi-monitors to go for it. It
>>really works well in win98 as long as you check the issues I listed in my
>>last post.
>>
>>Andrew. S.
>>
>>P.s. If you are building a new system from scratch, take a look at the
>>Abits BX6 mother board, it has 5 pci slots and the BIOS handles
>>multi-monitors. (most new boards do, but not all, so check)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Len Olson <lto@xxxxxxxx>
>>To: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Cc: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 6:01 PM
>>Subject: Re: hardware set up
>>
>>
>>>The number of IRQ's is set at fifteen, period. Go into your System
>>>section under "Control Panel" and list all of your IRQ'S, (and DMA's,
>>>Dynamic Memory Access), and I think you will be truly amazed at how fast
>>>those IRQ's and DMA's have become assigned. You may have seen a system
>>>running four monitors, (maybe), but that was probably at some trade show
>>>where the manufacturer/retailor made damn sure that it worked. Look. it
>>>comes down to cost and performance. Why take that chance with the
>>>current cost of Pentium II's below $1,000 and 17" monitors well below
>>>$300. That is not enough money to worry about. I will say the same
>>>thing here that I used to teach at Amarillo College and Tulsa Jr.
>>>College: DO NOT EVER SPEND $500 TO SAVE $50. Yes, I taught computer
>>>theory and database design. If you want system performance and
>>>reliability at today's prices, run separate systems off of a simple
>>>network.
>>>
>>>Andrew wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have looked in to multi-monitor setups with win98 and
>>>> I would say if you are serious about trading then you need to
>>>> do this. It is so easy in win98 and does not slow your system
>>>> down noticeably. It is also less expensive then you think. I have seen
>>a
>>>> 4 monitor system running TradeStation and it was amazing. but what
>>>> was really amazing is the video cards. They used basic 35 dollar
>>>> video card designed for win98.
>>>>
>>>> All you need are two or more supported video cards. Your
>>>> mother board bios must be designed for more then one
>>>> monitor. You have to have open slots and enough Irq's (interrupts)
>>>> to run the additional video cards.
>>>>
>>>> under win98, each video card will take and manage one portion of the
>>screen
>>>> so in theory your video response time could increase.
>>>>
>>>> The only way to really slow the system down is to run more applications.
>>>> If you run TradeStation on a 4 monitor system, you can put a chart on
>>each
>>>> monitor, but you will still be running one copy of trade station , so
>the
>>>> CPU will not
>>>> be strained more then it is normally. The video card takes 99 percent
>of
>>>> the additional
>>>> work load.
>>>>
>>>> I would also recommend that all your video cards are the same. This is
>>not
>>>> required
>>>> but it makes the drivers easier to install.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure why you would need 256 megs of ram. Each video card will
>>have
>>>> its own ram and will be processing only one portion of the desktop.
>>(which
>>>> is stretched
>>>> across the monitors) The system I saw with four monitors used 64 megs
>>with
>>>> cheapo video cars and it ran great.
>>>>
>>>> So you have to check the following.
>>>> 1.Can your computer mother board use two monitors. Call the manufacture
>>>>
>>>> 2.Which video cards do you want to use? are they compatible. Most
>>>> manufactures have compatible v-cards now.
>>>> Go to manufacture's web sights or call them and find one that suits your
>>>> needs and is compatible with multi-monitor setups.
>>>>
>>>> 3.Do you have open slots and Irq's available? If you don't know, find
>>>> someone to help or take it to a dealer.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Plug in the monitors. Make more money.
>>>>
>>>> The days of 2500 dollar dule monitor cards are history.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew S.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Len Olson <lto@xxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 4:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: hardware set up
>>>>
>>>> >Valhalla,
>>>> >
>>>> >You can run dual monitors but at the cost of performance and failure.
>>>> >Maybe the new Pentium III will be able to handle this approach. Apart
>>>> >from splitting the duties of the processor, you have two other BIG
>>>> >problems. The processor assigns and processes the job, i.e. logic,
>>>> >math, and I/O subsections of the processor. But, RAM has to be huge
>>>> >anymore. Perhaps, 256MB would suffice. Second, the onboard memory of
>>>> >the video board(s) has to be equally impressive. Both of these
>problems
>>>> >WILL result in RAM conflicts which in turn lead to system lockup. (the
>>>> >infamous "serious fault" or "system not responding" prompts from the
>>>> >PC. Worse yet, your screens just lock up, stop displaying updated
>data,
>>>> >and you do not even know what has happened. No doubt. Buy a second
>>>> >system. I responded to a few posts today regarding use of a cable
>>>> >modem. Here is what you do. Rely upon WIN95, 98, or NT's peer to peer
>>>> >network capabilities. Buy a network hub ($25 to $100). The cable
>modem
>>>> >will come equipped with a T-base-10 connection which goes into the hub.
>>>> >All, (or both), of your PC's tie into the hub. Instant access from all
>>>> >PC's to the internet via cable modem. Good Luck.
>>>> >
>>>> >Valhalla wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have a question for the group about an issue that others might have
>>>> >> tackled by now. Anyone running dual monitors under Win98? Would
>>>> >> appreciate any experience with this, especially as to choice of any
>>>> >> special video card required. The only one I've seen was as expensive
>>as
>>>> >> a 2nd computer.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks, Mark Scheier
>>>> >
>>>> >
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