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What is this preoccupation with processor speed? I run WinNT4 + dual
monitors @ 32bit true color + a full suite of real-time internet based
trading apps (Signal Online Data Manager+Ensign32+Timberhill order entry
with real-time streaming e-mini quotes) plus PIM+EMail+TextEditor plus
whatever else I feel like running. All on an "ancient" P133 with 128 meg, of
which NT never uses more than 80meg.
Earl
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: hardware set up
>Hello Philip,
>My concern would not be the speed of your processor, if it is fast enough
>for you know, then
>duel monitors will not effect the speed. If you run more applications
>because you have a larger desk top, then you
>will slow things down. but that would happen with only one monitor.
>
>the real issues here is your mother board. (main board in the system) I
>doubt the BIOS can handle the
>multi-monitor set up. Without a BIOS that is designed for multi-monitors
>you are asking for hassles.
>It may work, but you will have to jump through hoops. I do not recommend
>it.
>
>Another issues you have to deal with is win98. Win98 does not work well
>with some older systems.
>Dell put out a warning to it's users. They asked them not to upgrade to
>win98 with out contacting tech support first
>to determine if it would work. They were innovated with problems when
>people upgraded older, non-compatible systems.
>
>Your best bet is a new system if you want to run multi-monitors and to
avoid
>hassles. If you know a computer guru have him
>check your system it is possible that it will work, but you need someone
>that knows the system backwards and forwards.
>
>Good luck to you.
>Andrew s.
>
>By the way, the BIOS is the basic instructions of the system.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nixon(MLS) <mbjp57@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:27 PM
>Subject: Re: hardware set up
>
>
>>Andrew and all, this is very useful discussion as I am just about to
>embark
>>on mulit-monitor route. I am running W95 with a P150. Two questions, I
>>had heard that installing W98 can cause problems and that you should
>>reformat the hard drive before installing rather than installing in top of
>>W95. Is this the case/recommended? Secondly, Is my P150 processor going
>>to be too slow with the W98/mulitmonitor set-up?
>>
>>many thanks
>>
>>Philip
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andrew <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: 24 February 1999 01:33
>>Subject: Re: hardware set up
>>
>>
>>|I have looked in to multi-monitor setups with win98 and
>>|I would say if you are serious about trading then you need to
>>|do this. It is so easy in win98 and does not slow your system
>>|down noticeably. It is also less expensive then you think. I have seen
a
>>|4 monitor system running TradeStation and it was amazing. but what
>>|was really amazing is the video cards. They used basic 35 dollar
>>|video card designed for win98.
>>|
>>|All you need are two or more supported video cards. Your
>>|mother board bios must be designed for more then one
>>|monitor. You have to have open slots and enough Irq's (interrupts)
>>|to run the additional video cards.
>>|
>>|under win98, each video card will take and manage one portion of the
>screen
>>|so in theory your video response time could increase.
>>|
>>|The only way to really slow the system down is to run more applications.
>>|If you run TradeStation on a 4 monitor system, you can put a chart on
each
>>|monitor, but you will still be running one copy of trade station , so the
>>|CPU will not
>>|be strained more then it is normally. The video card takes 99 percent of
>>|the additional
>>|work load.
>>|
>>|I would also recommend that all your video cards are the same. This is
>not
>>|required
>>|but it makes the drivers easier to install.
>>|
>>|I am not sure why you would need 256 megs of ram. Each video card will
>>have
>>|its own ram and will be processing only one portion of the desktop.
(which
>>|is stretched
>>|across the monitors) The system I saw with four monitors used 64 megs
>with
>>|cheapo video cars and it ran great.
>>|
>>|So you have to check the following.
>>|1.Can your computer mother board use two monitors. Call the manufacture
>>|
>>|2.Which video cards do you want to use? are they compatible. Most
>>|manufactures have compatible v-cards now.
>>|Go to manufacture's web sights or call them and find one that suits your
>>|needs and is compatible with multi-monitor setups.
>>|
>>|3.Do you have open slots and Irq's available? If you don't know, find
>>|someone to help or take it to a dealer.
>>|
>>|5. Plug in the monitors. Make more money.
>>|
>>|The days of 2500 dollar dule monitor cards are history.
>>|
>>|
>>|Hope this helps.
>>|
>>|
>>|Andrew S.
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|-----Original Message-----
>>|From: Len Olson <lto@xxxxxxxx>
>>|To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>|Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 4:48 PM
>>|Subject: Re: hardware set up
>>|
>>|
>>|>Valhalla,
>>|>
>>|>You can run dual monitors but at the cost of performance and failure.
>>|>Maybe the new Pentium III will be able to handle this approach. Apart
>>|>from splitting the duties of the processor, you have two other BIG
>>|>problems. The processor assigns and processes the job, i.e. logic,
>>|>math, and I/O subsections of the processor. But, RAM has to be huge
>>|>anymore. Perhaps, 256MB would suffice. Second, the onboard memory of
>>|>the video board(s) has to be equally impressive. Both of these problems
>>|>WILL result in RAM conflicts which in turn lead to system lockup. (the
>>|>infamous "serious fault" or "system not responding" prompts from the
>>|>PC. Worse yet, your screens just lock up, stop displaying updated data,
>>|>and you do not even know what has happened. No doubt. Buy a second
>>|>system. I responded to a few posts today regarding use of a cable
>>|>modem. Here is what you do. Rely upon WIN95, 98, or NT's peer to peer
>>|>network capabilities. Buy a network hub ($25 to $100). The cable modem
>>|>will come equipped with a T-base-10 connection which goes into the hub.
>>|>All, (or both), of your PC's tie into the hub. Instant access from all
>>|>PC's to the internet via cable modem. Good Luck.
>>|>
>>|>Valhalla wrote:
>>|>>
>>|>> I have a question for the group about an issue that others might have
>>|>> tackled by now. Anyone running dual monitors under Win98? Would
>>|>> appreciate any experience with this, especially as to choice of any
>>|>> special video card required. The only one I've seen was as expensive
>as
>>|>> a 2nd computer.
>>|>>
>>|>> Thanks, Mark Scheier
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