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<DIV>I'm surprised.&nbsp; I thought all brokers took stops in overnight 
currencies.<BR>As John Lothian has already mentioned, just tell the broker you 
want to<BR>place a stop in the EFP (Exchange for Physicals) market.&nbsp; You 
should specify<BR>whether it's stop bid or stop offer.&nbsp; Here's 
how:<BR><BR>Suppose you are short 1 March Yen, and you want a buy stop at 9025 
for<BR>protection.&nbsp; Tell the broker:<BR>&quot;I have an EFP order.&nbsp; I 
want to BUY 1 March Yen at 9025 stop on the bid.&quot;<BR>OR<BR>&quot;I have an 
EFP order.&nbsp; I want to BUY 1 March Yen at 9025 stop on the 
offer.&quot;<BR><BR>Here's the difference:&nbsp; The 9025 buy stop offer will 
get triggered first and<BR>will usually result in no slippage.&nbsp; The 9025 
buy stop bid is a little<BR>farther away and harder to get hit, but if it does 
get triggered, it usually<BR>results in 4 or 5 points slippage under normal 
conditions (4 or 5 points is<BR>usually the bid-offer difference under normal 
conditions).<BR><BR>On the other hand, if you have a sell stop, a sell stop bid 
would get<BR>triggered before a sell stop offer, because a sell stop offer is a 
little<BR>farther away.<BR><BR>One problem you may encounter using EFPs:&nbsp; 
The highs and lows on GLOBEX<BR>don't have to match the highs and lows in the 
EFP market.&nbsp; These are two<BR>separate (but related) markets.&nbsp; I've 
had stops get hit in the EFP that<BR>would not have been hit on GLOBEX.&nbsp; So 
what I do to avoid that is loosen up<BR>my stops, and for buys, use buy stop 
bid, and for sells, use sell stop<BR>offers.&nbsp; It's harder for them to hit 
me that way.<BR><BR>Mark Morrison<BR><A 
href="mailto:mmorrison@xxxxxxxxxx";>mmorrison@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR><BR>-----Original 
Message-----<BR>From: Ira &lt;<A 
href="mailto:ist@xxxxxx";>ist@xxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>To: RealTraders Discussion Group 
&lt;<A 
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Date: 
Friday, February 05, 1999 10:42 AM<BR>Subject: Re: overnight 
markets<BR><BR><BR>&gt;My broker doesn't either.&nbsp; There appears to be no 
official method of<BR>&gt;placing a stop on the globex or forex markets.&nbsp; 
Some firms will take stops<BR>&gt;on a not held basis.&nbsp; I have even seen 
messages from traders in this forum<BR>&gt;state that they have a broker that 
will take a stop.&nbsp; If I want to trade<BR>&gt;the currencies at night or 
overnight I just by a call or put as a safety<BR>&gt;net and that will define my 
absolute risk to the penny. It does reduce<BR>&gt;your profit a little, but it 
also allows for a good nights sleep.&nbsp; Ira.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;al neubauer 
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; does anyone know a broker(on-line or conventional) 
that can place stop<BR>&gt;&gt; stop orders in night currency markets. my 
present broker doesnt. i'd<BR>&gt;&gt; like to trade the yen and other currencys 
but would like to be have a<BR>&gt;&gt; protective stop in at all 
times.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; any help is appreciated.<BR>&gt;&gt; al 
neubauer</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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