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Re: Futrs: Trading Stops/Risk/reward


  • To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: Futrs: Trading Stops/Risk/reward
  • From: Ira <ist@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:03:53 -0500 (EST)
  • In-reply-to: <3.0.2.32.19990203233839.00757cc4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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I have found over the years you need a probability of 80% to utilize a 1:1 return, 70% for
a 2:1 return and 60% should yield a 3:1 return. The one thing that can not be dealt with
in any method is the 3% factor.  The only way to handle that is to hedge with options.  It
reduces profits to a small degree but takes away that 3% factor which leads to poverty.
As for options, the returns can not be gauged in the same manner.  Each strategy has a
different degree of risk and probability of success. Unlike stocks, futures and options
are time sensitive therefore are much more conducive to strategies which include a timing
tool for entry and exit. Have a  good week, Ira.

r slupsky wrote:

> Jonathan Stewart Dempster wrote:
>
> > group, does  anyone have any comments regarding  stops and  risk reward
> > ratios,
>
> Tom Joseph of Trading Techniques in their video describes  a 1:1.6  with a 60% win
> percentage as a minimum.     An easy rule of thumb is risk 1 to make 2.  For me on
> options that increases to risk 1 to make 3-4.  I figure it at a 1:2 but only risk 1/2
> of the premium so the net is 1 to 4 or so.        This does not preclude the fact that
> I would take profits at any time.  Things change but I am committed to not letting a
> winner become a loser no matter how small the profit.
>
> r