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> From: charles meyer <chmeyer@xxxxxxxx>
> To: adest@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Wrong Lessons for trading.
> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 6:42 PM
>
> David:
>
> Dr. Elder may not have fully understand the basis and significance of
> the 12 step program as a tool for generating inward change. He may
> have attended a meeting, but did he fully understand that psychological
> principles that were used to complete an individual's spiritual
> trransformation?
> He may have misapplying the wisdom of the 12 steps. Admitting to oneself
> and others the nature of one's wrongdoing is only a small part of the
> total program.
> For a secular and euridite explanation of why this program works I would
> refer
> you to: "The Skeptics Guide To The 12 Steps".....by Philip Z. a
prominent
> psychiatrist.
>
> Charles
>
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> > From: David Hunt <adest@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Wrong Lessons for trading.
> > Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 6:32 PM
> >
> > I must say when Dr Elder said in his Psychology Video say to yourself
"I
> am
> > a Loser" each day before trading, he lost me. Did anyone else have
this
> > effect from the book?
> >
> > David Hunt
> > http://www.adest.com.au
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > | From: RAY RAFFURTY <rraff@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | To: tesla@xxxxxxx; RealTraders Discussion Group
> > <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | Subject: Re: Wrong Lessons for trading.
> > | Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 11:35 AM
> > |
> > | Elder's book is quite good, but contains only about 3
chapters
> > about
> > | the psychology of trading. The rest is devoted to descriptions and
> > methods
> > | of using some of the more basic and readily available indicators. He
> > then
> > | develops these into trading systems and presents some risk management
> > | techniques. After reading it you will probably want to go to some
more
> > | detailed texts on the subjects that interest you. For an excellent
> book
> > on
> > | the psychology of trading try "The Disciplined Trader" by Mark
Douglas.
> > |
> > | Good luck
> and
> > | good trading,
> > |
> > Ray
> > | Raffurty
> > |
> > | -----Original Message-----
> > | From: Terry S. Smith <tesla@xxxxxxx>
> > | To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 11:11 AM
> > | Subject: Re: Wrong Lessons for trading.
> > |
> > |
> > | >Have never read Elders, Trading for a Living, but I have heard great
> > things
> > | >about it, maybe I will add it to my trading library. E-mail me
> privately
> > in
> > | >this matter.
> > | >-----Original Message-----
> > | >From: Mike Campbell <mcampbell@xxxxxx>
> > | >To: tesla@xxxxxxx <tesla@xxxxxxx>; realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > | ><realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | >Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 8:54 AM
> > | >Subject: Re: Wrong Lessons for trading.
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >>Terry S. Smith writes:
> > | >>
> > | >>> The best book I have found to unlearn basic human nature is
> MINDTRAPS
> > | >>> UNLOCKING THE KEY TO INVESTMENT SUCCESS By Roland Barach. Before
> > | >>> reading the book it did not occur to me that I needed to shift my
> > | >>> perspective 180 degrees to be successful. After reading it I
began
> > to
> > | >>> realize why I was struggling to making any money in my investing
> > | >>> persist. It lists 88 psychological snares or Mindtraps that we
must
> > | >>> unlearn to become successful in this business. The ISBN is
> > | >>> 0-935219-07-2. Happy trading,
> > | >>
> > | >>How would you rate this book with respect to Elder's "Trading for a
> > | >>Living"? I'm reading that now, and it's an eye-opener for me.
> > | >>
> > | >>
> > | >
> > |
> > |
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