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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Rob <<A
href="mailto:sp500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>sp500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Monday, November 16, 1998 7:38 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Natural
Order<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Has anyone heard of the
"Natural Order" method of trading by the Natural Order
educators??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>They have full page ads
in Futures magazine showing great market timing. Is it for real
???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Rob</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Rob:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>These "natural
order" programs are, for the most part, totally useless. The only
natural order is that the promoter gets rich and the buyer becomes much
poorer by the amount of the purchase price and the losses encountered
in trading. I bought several of these programs and they were
disasters. One from a scam guy in Florida who currently has one for
sale for $10,000!!! I traded his initial program, after paying $4900
for it, for three months with the recommended brokers. Total loss:
$10,000 trading, $4900 program cost or close to $15,000. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>If anyone has found out
what the Natural Order of the markets are, please let me know,
immediately!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>My advice, Stay
Away. I would love to hear what other RT'ers have to say about the
Natural Order.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>John</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>jdfo@xxxxxxxxx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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Clyde,
I downloaded your new version, however, even with "update every tick" on,
it does not report the
length of the current leg if not finished. Also, there is no input for ATR
multiplier ( only "Ndays")
and no EndDate. Could it be that you, by mistake, attached the old version?
Will appreciate very much yor answer.
Regards,
Jan Philipp
At 04:46 PM 11/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Bob,
>
>Thanks a million for your suggestions.
>
>The attached .ela now reports the length of the
>current leg of a swing even though not finished.
>
>Also, there is a parameter which is a MULTIPLIER
>of the AverageTrueRange(14) computed on the bar
>on which the indicator ends that is used to compute
>a Channel about the incomplete leg -- watch for stop!
>
>Also, added a EndDate in case someone wants to look
>at how this thing behaved in the past. I quits
>on the EndDate and one can evaluate the channels as
>stops, etc.
>
>Clyde
>
>BobRABCDEF@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>> Your Length of Swing makes a nice tool. Maybe there would be some way
to code
>> the last swing as it develops, such as a close to close line with the bar
>> count show me next to the current bar. Maybe it would take a user
refresh by
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>SYTECH Corporation email: <clydelee@xxxxxxx>
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