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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Thoughts from a relative 
newbie:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Re: the multiple time frame question 
below.&nbsp; Don't know exactly what you may mean by &quot;multiple cycle time 
frame analysis, techniques&quot; but here are a few places to look.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cynthia Kase discusses multiple time frame 
trading in her book &quot;Trading with the Odds&quot;.&nbsp; The chapter to look 
at has the word &quot;timeframe&quot; in it.&nbsp; I think her idea of 
&quot;scaling up in timeframes&quot; is a terrific one for transforming day 
trades to position trades. (Though I haven't actually done it but only have 
plans to try it at some point.)&nbsp; I also think her discussion of timeframes 
and risk is terrific and a MUST READ for newbies with small 
accounts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Alexander Elder has a discussion of 
multiple time frames in his book &quot;Trading for a Living.&quot;&nbsp; See the 
chapter on &quot;Triple Screen.&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Robert Krausz has a brief discussion of 
multiple time frames in his &quot;Gann Treasure...&quot; book.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>My recommendation would be to start with Kase and work down 
the list.&nbsp; The essential ideas Kase, Elder, and Krausz lay out are the same 
albeit they call these ideas different things (e.g., Kase's &quot;Permission 
Stochastic&quot; is similar to Elder's &quot;Triple Screen&quot;).&nbsp; IMO, 
it's important to focus on the multiple time frame concepts rather than on the 
specific indicators they recommend to use for each time frame.&nbsp; Both Kase 
and Elder distinguish 3 useful timeframes for trading</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Key questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; How many timeframes should be considered 
in initiating a trade?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is the proportion across the 
timeframes that should be used?&nbsp; Is it fixed (as in Elder's &quot;Factor of 
Five&quot;) or market specific?</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Steven Buss</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Walnut Creek, CA<BR><A 
href="mailto:sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx";>sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
</B>Peter [ KKD] &lt;<A 
href="mailto:derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
</B>steve &lt;swp@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
</B>Wednesday, November 11, 1998 8:40 AM<BR><B>Subject: 
</B>forward<BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>
<DIV>steve</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; it seems I cannotpost to the real traders group..server 
problems. Cam you post this fo me </DIV>
<DIV>thanks </DIV>
<DIV>Peter</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>G'Day folks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A freind of mine recommended 
I look at Walter Bresserts website which focuses on cycles. Trouble is that 
neither he nor I can located the damn thing. Anyone have the URL.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Also any material out there 
on multiple cycle time frame analysis, techniques etc. , I'll even consider ARCH 
&amp; GARCH techniques, despite them not being totally cyclic works</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Peter <A 
href="mailto:derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
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In a message dated 98-11-11 15:06:36 EST, wl7bdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

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