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Re: trades anyone?



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Kevin, I agree with the first part. I have a comment about your trade. It
has been my experience that when extreme volatility happens, many of the
probabilities go out the window. I usually decline to trade in these
conditions now. Some of the guys like Ben seem to have a handle on trading
in these conditions. I like markets that make sense.

Brent

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> From: Kevin Morgan <kmorgan@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: GEN: trades anyone?
> Date: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 7:58 PM
> 
> Hey RT'rs:
> 
>   To quote John Lennon:
>    
>      "I don't believe in <put your favorite trading belief here>,
>       I just believe in me."
> 
>   I'm not interested in anything related to trading "just because", and
>   that includes astrology and that includes MA's and stochs and that
>   includes freezes in Florida.  
> 
>   All I'm interested in related to trading is trading.  So where are
>   your trades?  Trades are the be all and the end all.  Behind a trade is
the 
>   why and wherefor.  The why and wherefor are only interesting and of
value
>   in the context of specific trades!!  Then they show their value, and
>   their risks.  And the value is the real time assessment, uncertainty,
>   decision making, and final execution based on your beliefs...not
>   after the fact analysis.  (i.e., historical trades are of far less
>   learning value, imo)
> 
>   So, I am much more interested in hearing what you are
>   buying or selling, and how, and THEN why, and how you are managing your

>   trade over time...than I am in abstract assessments of why you do,
don't,
>   may or may not believe in astrological influences, or TA, or Super Bowl
>   theories, or whatever your trading system is.
> 
>   I'm interested in your trades and your logic and what happens because
>   from that, I can learn.  Maybe I even learn astrology, who knows.
> 
>   (Note: nothing really wrong with abstract stuff, I can skip over it
>     quick enough; I'm not suggesting not having those discussions; who am
>     I to suggest that.  I'm just interested in getting something from
this
>     forum, and tying the abstract stuff to the real thing makes
it...real.)
> 
> 
>   To whit:
> 
>      A HORRIBLE TRADE:
> 
> 	Sold short one JY8Z at market, order placed Tues. night.  Good idea!
> 	Horrible timing.  The Tuesday action that screamed "sell" had
> 	already had its effect, and Wed. opened far, far lower.  (Globex
> 	when I checked it last night was a little lower, but not much.)
> 	And then JY bounced and rose.  After what looked like a possible high
> 	had been established, I placed a tight stop, but another bounce took 
> 	me out for a quick $500 loss.  Ouch!  I am, yours truly, a fool.  I 
> 	swear it: I will NEVER NEVER NEVER again use a market order to enter 
> 	into a currencies position.  NEVER!!!!!  (and I think I told myself 
> 	that only last week too, which goes to prove that learning requires 
> 	repetition!)
> 
> 	Oh yes, what screamed "sell"?  A "star" pattern from Japanese
> 	candlesticks, where a significant upmove is topped by a gap open
> 	with a down close, and the low is above the previous day's high.
> 	A "dark star" above the previous action.  It commonly signals a 
> 	significant turn.  I needed to see it in real-time though, and
> 	get in on Tuesday's close..."I'd be rich now".  Well, I'd certainly
> 	have alot more $'s in my account equity, anyway.
> 
> 
> -k
>