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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>thanks for the quick response to my inquiry 
regarding a chat room.&nbsp; I am finishing trading in about an hour and then 
taking a flyfishing trip for a few days.&nbsp; Be back on Tues.&nbsp; It looks 
like the AbbottChat might be the best means to accomplish our goal.&nbsp; If you 
are interested in &quot;chatting&quot;, download a copy at <A 
href="http://www.abbottsys.com";>http://www.abbottsys.com</A>.&nbsp; On Tuesday, 
I will send a message through the discussion group on how we should 
proceed.&nbsp; See you on Tuesday.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>This Abbottchat is free, I have used it before, 
and I have no association with the company!!!&nbsp; (just want to share Spoo 
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</x-html>From ???@??? Thu Sep 03 11:41:44 1998
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Subject: Re: Searching for cycles in the bonds
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Russ and group,

I'd be happy to share the answers I've received. First, I have stated
before that I have never been able to find a way to use cycles to trade but
I have a new Detrend Indicator that looks promising. There are many kinds
of cycles that may effect the markets. I was hoping that someone may have a
short term daily value for a bond cycle(less then 35 days). Using my
proprietary Detrend Indicator I first got a value of 27 days, after some
work and observation I’m getting 18 days. This would suggest that the value
should be 18 with a half cycle value of 9 which would explain the 27
figure. The most recent hit would have been on Sep 1st. Now here is 3 other
values I've received.

Check Hightower calender.  55-05 low 9-28-81  check 55.125 weeks,
months, from date. 122-10 from 9-08-93  (857 days).

About 3 points per options cycle.

The strongest pattern in the bonds is a 41 week cycle +/- 5 weeks. We are
currently in week 26.

Regards,
Brent

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> From: TWA7663@xxxxxxx
> To: brente@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Searching for cycles in the bonds
> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 8:59 AM
> 
> You wrote,
> <<<<<<<<<
> Hi group, do any of you have a well thought out value for bond cycles?
> <<<<<<<<
> 
> Would you pass along any answers to:
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Russ
> TWA7663@xxxxxxx