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Re: Discretion vs Mechanical



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Hi Peter

Mark Douglas' evolution of a trader fits in nicely here.

"objective (mechanical) to subjective (discretionary) to 
intuitive".

A mechanical trader: rule (written) based - once the rules are set
up, you leave them in place for a set number of trades. In
addition, there is no variance from the rules allowed.

A subjective trader: also rule (written) based but can "break" his rules.
In my experience, these rules are broken in favour of exits 
rather than entries.

An intuitive trader:  trades without rules and trusts that his
intuition will make the best judgement possible in 
the circumstances.

I agree with Gwenn that a novice trader's best  start is 
as a rule based trader irrespective of his personality. Subjective
trading requires at least modicum of knowing we can make money
as traders otherwise "intuition" is merely "into wishing".  I won't even
talk about the probability of a newbie succeeding if he moves 
straight into the intuitive phase. Yet most of the ones I know of
start this way.

For the record I missed the rule based stage. With benefit of 
hindsight, I can say that for myself, I'd have been many $ better of
had I had not.

regards

ray

R Barros
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> From: Peter G <ktata@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: GEN: Discretion vs Mechanical
> Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 7:59 AM
> 
> RTs:
> 
> I have been exclusively discretionary in both stock and futures. However,
> Gwenn Ael Gautier was a strong believer in E.O.D. mechanical systems for
> the first years of trading. We talked some before she left the forum.
> Anyway, any comments about DISCRETIONARY versus MECHANICAL trading?
> 
> PG