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> realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
>                             REALTRADERS Digest 802
> 
> Topics covered in this issue include:
> 
>   1) Re: GEN: David Bowden
>         by schong <schong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   2) Re: RT Daily Bulletin 5/29/98
>         by "Earl Adamy" <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>   3) Re: FUTR: Continuous Contracts
>         by "Earl Adamy" <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>   4) Re:S&P
>         by "Tom Stein" <comfut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   5) RE: MKT Historical Vol data
>         by THE DOCTOR <droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   6) Re: Borrowing stocks to short
>         by Alberto Torchio <atorchio@xxxxxxxxx>
>   7) Re: Free E-mail Program
>         by "Bob Young" <polaris@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>   8) Re:  MKT - Elliott Wave:  S&P500 and Hang Seng Index
>         by Jeffrey Harteam <jharteam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   9) Re: MKT - Elliott Wave:  S&P500 and Hang Seng Index
>         by apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Adrian Pitt)
>  10) Re: An idea to beat the tax man
>         by CalaxCorp@xxxxxxx
>  11) Re: An idea to beat the tax man
>         by CalaxCorp@xxxxxxx
>  12) Australian All Ords.
>         by "Darryl Potts" <dpot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  13) Re: MKT - Elliott Wave:  S&P500 and Hang Seng Index
>         by "Tom  Alexander" <gta3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  14) Re: DTN data Feed
>         by Donald Thompson <detomps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  15) Re: RT Daily Bulletin 5/29/98
>         by "Randy Murphree" <murpran@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  16) Re: DTN data Feed
>         by "Lee Clayton, D.D.S." <dds2@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  17) RE: System testing software ???
>         by "Blaine Mathieu" <bmathieu@xxxxxxx>
>  18) Re: DTN data Feed
>         by Peter2150@xxxxxxx
>  19) Day Trading S & P Futures
>         by "Brendan R. Smyth." <brsmyth@xxxxxx>
>  20) Unsubscribe
>         by Jack Brusie <dojak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  21) DTN New Sat T-5 Up Today 5/30
>         by RobertHoff@xxxxxxx
>  22) Trading Advice - Stops
>         by "Bill Eykyn" <t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  23) Re: DTN data Feed
>         by RobertHoff@xxxxxxx
>  24) Re;S&P/Hotlines Etc...
>         by "Tom Stein" <comfut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  25) Re: Re;S&P/Hotlines Etc...
>         by Peter2150@xxxxxxx
>  26) unsubscribe
>         by JHat111@xxxxxxx
>  27) RE: System testing software ???
>         by "Joe Balsamo" <jbalsamo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: GEN: David Bowden
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:02:06 -0700
> From: schong <schong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: adest@xxxxxxxxxx
> CC: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> David,
> 
>  I know people that have personally attended his A$20,000 course and
>  I've been told that many of the techniques can be obtained from
>  other publicly available sources except perhaps 1 or 2 that relates
>  to long-term forecasting.
> 
>  There's very little astrology involved. The only thing that comes
>  close is Time By Degree. It seems his flair is with his ability to
> bring
>  all these publicly available techniques together into a useable
>  trading plan particular in his long-term forecast something that many
>  find it difficult with Gann's technique.
> 
>  Personally, I do not think highly of his methods of soliciting
>  business and his target audience other than that I can only speculate
>  on what he teaches in his A$25,000 course.
> 
>  Clement
> 
> David Hunt wrote:
> >
> > The Astrology stuff comes for A$20,000 or so. Great advertising at
> that
> > price.
> >
> > David Hunt
> > http://adest.com.au
> >
> > ----------
> > | From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | To: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > | Cc: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | Subject: Re: GEN: David Bowden
> > | Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 8:51 AM
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > | Steven C. Walker wrote:
> > |
> > | > David Bowden is an Australian trader and self-professed Gann
> expert.
> > Though a program called SAFETY IN THE MARKETS  he sells a Smarter
> Starter
> > Pack for $1,000.  From his website I requested  information on the
> "Pack".
> > What I got was testimonial-after-testimonial and very little hard
> info.
> > | >
> > | > Any RTs have any expierence with Mr. Bowden?
> > |
> > | Steven,   My "Gann Expert" test is to ask them how much Astrology
> they
> > use. If they say they don't use Astrology, they don't know Gann.
> > |
> > | Regards,
> > |
> > | Norman
> > |
> > |
> > |
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: RT Daily Bulletin 5/29/98
> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 19:04:33 -0600
> From: "Earl Adamy" <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'RealTraders Discussion Group'" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Occasionally, I visit one of the subtopic discussion groups mentioned
> in the RT Daily Bulletin to see if there is anything of interest.
> Invariably, I seem to find nothing posted. This evening I visited
> "Daytrading futures  http://www.realtraders.com/daytradingfutures";,
> clicked on "Content" and found no content - just notation "Last
> changed: March 11, 1998". Am I missing something here?
> 
> Earl
> 
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Eddie Kwong <eddiekwong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      To: 'RealTraders Discussion Group'
>      <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 10:54 AM
>      Subject: RT Daily Bulletin 5/29/98
> 
>      Fellow Realtraders:
> 
>      This posting is sent out every few days. Its purpose is to
>      inform new subscribers of something they may be interested
>      in (like a digest) and to serve as a summary of current
>      list-related resourcesand policies.
> 
>      ****************************************************************
> 
>      FEATURED NOW ON THE RT WEB:
>      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>      1. NEW SUBTOPIC DISCUSSIONS ON THE REALTRADERS WEBSITE:
>      Daytrading futures
>      http://www.realtraders.com/daytradingfutures
>      Money Management  http://www.realtraders.com/moneymanagement
> 
>      (entries, exits, stops, etc.)
>      Elliott Wave  http://www.realtraders.com/elliottwave
>      Market Geometry
>      http://www.realtraders.com/geometricforecasting
>      Mutual Funds  http://www.realtraders.com/mutualfunds
>      Options  http://www.realtraders.com/options
>      Omega Products  http://www.realtraders.com/omega
>      Mechanical Systems
>      http://www.realtraders.com/systemsmechanical
>      Trading Psychology
>      http://www.realtraders.com/tradingpsychology
>      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: FUTR: Continuous Contracts
> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 19:16:31 -0600
> From: "Earl Adamy" <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Ken,
> 
> If you are using back adjusted CC's then the current contract is
> priced to
> market while the current contract in forward adjusted CC's is not
> priced to
> market since it is adjusted. I use Pinnacle's back adjusted data and
> import the
> Ascii data directly into SuperCharts where I do my long and short term
> analysis
> by flicking compression among Monthly, Weekly, and Daily. While the
> Pinnacle
> software automatically performs the rollover, it provides an advance
> schedule
> and a warning on the rolloever date. There are only two caveats: 1)
> rollover
> will require shifting of trend lines and other handwork and 2) you may
> need the
> previous/next contract data when holding a position through a rollover
> or
> entering trades on the next contract in advance of rollover. The
> Extended
> Contracts option provides price data on all currently trading
> contracts.
> 
> The rollover issue might be more a hassle for commodities which roll
> frequently
> but it's narry an issue when trading commodities which roll quarterly.
> 
> Earl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken A <ken.a1@xxxxxxxx>
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 3:56 PM
> Subject: FUTR: Continuous Contracts
> 
> >If your system's results are based on tests run on adjusted (merged)
> >continuous contracts, when it comes time to trade the system for
> real, do
> >you take signals from actual individual contract, or is it ever ok to
> >take signals from the adjusted continuous contract?  Obviously, the
> >signals don't always agree.  Any input would be appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Kenneth
> >
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re:S&P
> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 18:25:23 -0700
> From: "Tom Stein" <comfut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I stand corrected re: Ben's call to short at 1102.40 with a stop above
> 1106.......
> 
> You would not have been stopped out ..........
> 
> Tom Stein
> comfut@xxxxxxx
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: RE: MKT Historical Vol data
> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:21:39 -0500
> From: THE DOCTOR <droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> THE CBOE Website..www.cboe.com..now lists historical vol for all
> listed
> stocks.
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: Borrowing stocks to short
> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 17:46:22 -0700
> From: Alberto Torchio <atorchio@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Peter Timaratz <timaratz@xxxxxxxxx>
> CC: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Peter,
> 
> > Are some brokers better than others when it comes to finding
> > stock for shorting?
> 
> Sorry to reply so late... anyway:
> 
> DATEK -> never had problems
> AMERITRADE -> sometimes stocks are unavailable.
> 
> Alberto Torchio
>  Torino, Italy
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: Free E-mail Program
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:45:19 -0400
> From: "Bob Young" <polaris@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Randy Murphree wrote:
> 
> > My kids use Juno because it's free. Juno works pretty well, but has
> a
> > major limitation for many of us. There is no way to attach files for
> > transfers. I have no knowledge at all of the Hotmail program.
> Regards,
> 
> You CAN receive small attachments with Juno.  I think the limit is
> 64k, but it
> could be less.  You have to save the message as a file, and then open
> it with
> WinZip, which will decode the attachment and allow you to save it
> separately.  I
> have a friend who uses Juno - so i've tried this and it works.  I have
> transferred
> several GIF images this way.
> 
> Hotmail (mentioned elsewhere) is now owned by Microsoft.  Attachments
> are
> allowed, and you can sort into folders, apply filters etc.  They have
> recently
> modified the site substantially, and all pages now load very fast.
> You can also
> access your regular POP3 account thru the site.  It's a very good
> service for the
> price(free)!
> 
> Finally, some ISP's also provide alternative POP account access thru
> the www -
> mine included (Surfree).  Check out www.surfree.com.  This is very
> handy when
> traveling.  $17.95 per month for unlimited time - and a $2 per month
> rebate for
> referrals.  Let me refer you and I can save 2 bucks :-)
> 
> Bob Young
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: MKT - Elliott Wave: S&P500 and Hang Seng Index
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:27:40 +0800
> From: Jeffrey Harteam <jharteam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Greetings Traders:
> 
> Here's my current interpretations of the S&P 500.  It is in the
> process
> of bottoming out.  Thereafter, it will head for its fifth wave of the
> primary degree.  For those following the Hang Seng Index, attached is
> the updated wave counts as of Friday.  Trade on the short side on ANY
> corrective waves!  Regards.
> 
> Have a good one
> Jeff Harteam
> Hong Kong
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]  [Image]
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: MKT - Elliott Wave: S&P500 and Hang Seng Index
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 07:55:18 GMT
> From: apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Adrian Pitt)
> To: jharteam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> Hate to disppoint you, but your wave count on the S&P is wrong and
> will eventually have to be relabelled.  How do I know this?
> Easy....there is no alternation between waves 2 and 4...they are both
> labelled as Flats.
> 
> Adrian Pitt
> http://www.macquarie.com.au/menu/mnu32.htm
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: An idea to beat the tax man
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 04:20:58 EDT
> From: CalaxCorp@xxxxxxx
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> In a message dated 98-05-29 15:20:07 EDT, clarkmj@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
> << Subj:         An idea to beat the tax man
>  Date:  98-05-29 15:20:07 EDT
>  From:  clarkmj@xxxxxxxxxx (clarkmj)
> 
>  I was just sitting here doing some work on my IRA and an idea hit me
> on how
> to beat the tax man.
> 
>  The idea being to use all your accounts to generate as much tax free
> income
> into your IRA as possible.
> INCOME GENERATED IN AN IRA IS NORMALLY "TAX DEFERRED", NOT "TAX FREE".
> 
>  Here is the plan. .......
>  5.  At the end of the trading year total up the net revenue and issue
> a
> dividend to reduce revenue to zero.  If I understand corporate law
> correctly,
> you would only owe corporate income tax on any income which whould net
> out to
> be zero because of the dividend, therefore no tax.  Any idea on why
> this will
> or will not work.
>  THE TAXABLE INCOME IN THE CORPORATION IS NOT REDUCED BY DIVIDEND IT
> PAYS.
> 
>  Thanks
>  Mike Clark
>  clarkmj@xxxxxxxxxx >>
> 
> SINCERELY,
> WILLIAM W
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: An idea to beat the tax man
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 04:42:31 EDT
> From: CalaxCorp@xxxxxxx
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> In a message dated 98-05-29 16:46:55 EDT, rraff@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
> << Subj:         Re: An idea to beat the tax man
>  Date:  98-05-29 16:46:55 EDT
>  From:  rraff@xxxxxxxxx (Raymond Raffurty)
> 
>  clarkmj wrote:
> 
>  > I was just sitting here doing some work on my IRA and an idea hit
> me on
>  > how to beat the tax man.  Please send any comments to me. The idea
> being
>  > to use all your accounts to generate as much tax free income into
> your
>  > IRA as possible. Assume $500,000 trading capitalCurrent IRA $5000
> Here is
>  > the plan.1.  Form a corporation and issue 500000 $1 non dividend
> paying
>  > share to yourself.  Stipulate in the articles of incorporation that
> as
>  > CEO, your room, board, car and other expenses will be pick-up by
> the
>  > corporation. 2.  Declare that the corporation will sell 5000
> dividend
>  > paying shares. 3.  Sell the 5000 shares to your IRA. 4.  Do
> business as
>  > usual.  Easier to deduct expenses.  Pay yourself rent, etc... 5.
> At the
>  > end of the trading year total up the net revenue and issue a
> dividend to
>  > reduce revenue to zero.  If I understand corporate law correctly,
> you
>  > would only owe corporate income tax on any income which whould net
> out to
>  > be zero because of the dividend, therefore no tax. 6.  Your IRA
> then
>  > grows based on your ROR on $505,000 vs. $5000 Any idea on why this
> will
>  > or will not work. ThanksMike Clark
>  >
>  >  Hi Mike,
>  >
>  >              A far better way to handle this would be to establish
> the
>  > corporation as described.  Then set up a legal 401k plan with
> generous
>  > bennifits to you.  As you may know, you can contribute more to a
> 401k
>  > than an IRA, also your "corporation" can contribute matching funds,
> all
>  > tax free.  You could use these funds to diversify your portfolio.
>  >
>  > Good luck and good trading,
>   > Ray Raffurty
>   >>
> 
> YOUR TAX ADVISER WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT A CORPORATE QUALIFIED
> PENSION
> PLAN CALLED "DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN" MAY GIVE YOUR CORPORATION MORE TAX
> DEDUCTIONS THAN A 401(K) PLAN UNDER NORMAL SITUATIONS.  THE AMOUNT
> CONTRIBUTED
> BY YOUR CORPORATION INTO YOUR Q PENSION PLAN ALSO ACCUMULATES INCOME
> GENERATED
> THERE TAX-DEFERRED.
> 
> SINCERELY,
> WILLIAM W
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Australian All Ords.
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:50:56 +1000
> From: "Darryl Potts" <dpot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Hello Traders,
> 
> I would like to exchange Natures Pulse gifs or jpegs of the XAO with
> others
> following this market.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Darryl Potts
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: MKT - Elliott Wave: S&P500 and Hang Seng Index
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:51:07 -0400
> From: "Tom Alexander" <gta3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "RealTraders Discussion Group" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Jeff's count looks quite viable to me. First, alternation is a
> guideline,
> not an immutable rule. Secondly, the lack of alternation is in a
> relatively
> minor degree of the overall trend, and the next higher degree is in
> the
> process of forming alternation between (2) and (4) as Jeff has it
> labeled.
> 
> More importantly, no one KNOWS whether a given count is correct until
> after
> the fact. Elliott is a super methodology that at times can give a
> trader a
> very useful assessment of the probabilities of future market movement.
> Jeff
> generously shares his interpretations on various markets quite often
> and I
> have found his work to be quite accurate and rigorously derived from
> an
> Elliott perspective.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tom Alexander
> 
> ----------
> > From: Adrian Pitt <apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: MKT - Elliott Wave:  S&P500 and Hang Seng Index
> > Date: Saturday, May 30, 1998 3:55 AM
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Hate to disppoint you, but your wave count on the S&P is wrong and
> > will eventually have to be relabelled.  How do I know this?
> > Easy....there is no alternation between waves 2 and 4...they are
> both
> > labelled as Flats.
> >
> > Adrian Pitt
> > http://www.macquarie.com.au/menu/mnu32.htm
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: DTN data Feed
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:16:25 -0400
> From: Donald Thompson <detomps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> CC: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> To the people who use DTN
> 
> I recieved this following message from an employee of DTN in web
> Support
> on Saturday
> morning...
> 
> To DTN's credit they have been fairly responsive to any inquiry..
> 
> Don,
> 
> As you already know things are always changing when you are part of a
> crisis
> situation. Keeping in the tradition of change, I have learned that
> there
> is
> going to be another change in very near future. As of today we have
> contracted a new satellite called T-5. This new satellite is located
> about 2
> degrees East of our original location. We will start broadcasting on
> Monday,
> June 1. I will get more information over the next two days on what we
> need
> to do to get you taken care of. In the mean time I have given this
> information on your unit to the Supervisor for that area. He will look
> into
> what we need to do. The good news is that the new satellite is much
> more
> powerful than our old one or any of the others that we are
> transmitting
> on
> now. This will mean that it will be much easier to tune in.
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: RT Daily Bulletin 5/29/98
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:28:45 -0500
> From: "Randy Murphree" <murpran@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>,
>      "RealTraders Discussion Group" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Hi Earl:
> I have had the same experience with the RealTraders discussions
> groups. I
> had decided that I was missing some kind of password or something.
> Regards,
> Randy Murphree
> 
> ----------
> From: Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: RT Daily Bulletin 5/29/98
> Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 8:04 PM
> 
> Occasionally, I visit one of the subtopic discussion groups mentioned
> in
> the RT Daily Bulletin to see if there is anything of interest.
> Invariably,
> I seem to find nothing posted. This evening I visited "Daytrading
> futures
> http://www.realtraders.com/daytradingfutures";, clicked on "Content"
> and
> found no content - just notation "Last changed: March 11, 1998". Am I
> missing something here?
> 
> Earl
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Eddie Kwong <eddiekwong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     To: 'RealTraders Discussion Group' <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 10:54 AM
>     Subject: RT Daily Bulletin 5/29/98
> 
> 
>     Fellow Realtraders:
>     This posting is sent out every few days. Its purpose is to inform
> new
> subscribers of something they may be interested in (like a digest) and
> to
> serve as a summary of current list-related resourcesand policies.
> 
>     ****************************************************************
>     FEATURED NOW ON THE RT WEB:
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------
>     1. NEW SUBTOPIC DISCUSSIONS ON THE REALTRADERS WEBSITE:
>     Daytrading futures  http://www.realtraders.com/daytradingfutures
>     Money Management  http://www.realtraders.com/moneymanagement
>     (entries, exits, stops, etc.)
>     Elliott Wave  http://www.realtraders.com/elliottwave
>     Market Geometry  http://www.realtraders.com/geometricforecasting
>     Mutual Funds  http://www.realtraders.com/mutualfunds
>     Options  http://www.realtraders.com/options
>     Omega Products  http://www.realtraders.com/omega
>     Mechanical Systems  http://www.realtraders.com/systemsmechanical
>     Trading Psychology  http://www.realtraders.com/tradingpsychology
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: DTN data Feed
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:31:45 -0500
> From: "Lee Clayton, D.D.S." <dds2@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <detomps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>      "RealTraders Discussion Group" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> This is GREAT!  I just spent an hour on the roof this morning locking
> onto
> their newest satelite, which according to this email will not be their
> newest for long.  Please let me know if you find anything out
> differently as
> to when another switch will occur.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Thompson <detomps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Saturday, May 30, 1998 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: DTN data Feed
> 
> To the people who use DTN
> 
> I recieved this following message from an employee of DTN in web
> Support
> on Saturday
> morning...
> 
> To DTN's credit they have been fairly responsive to any inquiry..
> 
> Don,
> 
> As you already know things are always changing when you are part of a
> crisis
> situation. Keeping in the tradition of change, I have learned that
> there
> is
> going to be another change in very near future. As of today we have
> contracted a new satellite called T-5. This new satellite is located
> about 2
> degrees East of our original location. We will start broadcasting on
> Monday,
> June 1. I will get more information over the next two days on what we
> need
> to do to get you taken care of. In the mean time I have given this
> information on your unit to the Supervisor for that area. He will look
> into
> what we need to do. The good news is that the new satellite is much
> more
> powerful than our old one or any of the others that we are
> transmitting
> on
> now. This will mean that it will be much easier to tune in.
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: RE: System testing software ???
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:55:50 -0600
> From: "Blaine Mathieu" <bmathieu@xxxxxxx>
> To: <mdleb@xxxxxxxxx>,
>      "RealTraders Discussion Group" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> See TradeLab at www.sciapp.com. It should solve your problems.
> 
> Blaine Mathieu
> Turning Point Trading Inc.
> Alberta, Canada
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gene Batten
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 8:26 AM
> > To: RealTraders Discussion Group
> > Subject: System testing software ???
> >
> >
> >
> > I am looking for some good trading-system testing software other
> than
> > Tradestation. I understand that Tradestation costs about $2400 US
> which
> > is more than I think system testing software should cost. Maybe I am
> > just "cheap". Is Tradestation really worth that much?
> >
> > All I want to do is test trading systems. Charts and technical
> analysis
> > info are available from other sources. I would appreciate comments
> and
> > advise from members of this list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gene Batten
> > mdleb@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: DTN data Feed
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:02:43 EDT
> From: Peter2150@xxxxxxx
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Geez guys
> 
>             I saw a post this morning where someone said DTN was doing
> pretty
> good under the circumstances.  Good grief.  BMI had there satellite
> people up
> and running by 1 est the next day.   I thank my lucky stars I didn't
> have the
> option to switch when the subject first came up.  This problem some
> DTN users
> are having would be killing me.  This is a case where a penny saved
> would be a
> dollar disaster.   Good luck folks.
> 
>                 Pete
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Day Trading S & P Futures
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:07:19 +0100
> From: "Brendan R. Smyth." <brsmyth@xxxxxx>
> To: "ReallTraders Discussion Group" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I am considering day trading S & P Futures. Is there anyone out there
> who could provide me with some advice about starting eg re internet
> brokers, types of contracts to start, data feeds, (preferably via
> internet, risk determination etc. I have a trading methodology, which
> I would like to apply to S&P futures, however my knowledge of the
> Futures markets is very limited.
> 
> Brendan Smyth
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Unsubscribe
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:41:02 -0400
> From: Jack Brusie <dojak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> I would like to unsubscriber. Please no more e-mails to
> dojak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Jack Brusie
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: DTN New Sat T-5 Up Today 5/30
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:52:20 EDT
> From: RobertHoff@xxxxxxx
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: amerskin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, detomps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, tkelley@xxxxxxx,
>      eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I just spoke with DTN tech support and was informed that DTN has found
> a new
> home for RT service at T5. I'm told this is a much stronger sat and in
> the
> approximate location of the old G4.   I'm also told that all that
> needs to be
> done is point the dish.
> 
> In that this has not been posted by DTN to the web yet, I'm only
> forwarding
> this as "rumor".  Please check with DTN for instuctions....
> 
> Happy Trading,
> 
> Bob Hoff
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Trading Advice - Stops
> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:58:06 +0100
> From: "Bill Eykyn" <t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Realtraders" <Realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Finally had to join this strand!
> 
> If day trading - I emphasize that, since that is all that I do, on the
> Bonds - st