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RE: FUTR- I goofed with March T-Bonds



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	I had been diligently counting my Elliott Waves for weeks, waiting for the
end of the fifth wave and anticipating a subsequent significant correction.

As a day-trader, I have to say that I am not a believer in Elliott as a 
predictive trading tool. Three up, two down, or two up and three down, 
sub-waves, extensions, etc, it seems to me that it is always right after the 
event, but I can't put my money on it beforehand. For me, it is just too iffy! 
 

I jumped in because I just HAD TO GRAB THAT TOP!.   I sold March T-Bonds at 
119-11. 

Me, I go by the prices that I know are marked on the pit traders' cards.  I 
like to work with what they are working with!  They are the guys that count!   
On 12/04 the pivot was 119-10, so rather than go short, after the open and the 
market had traded down to and stalled at the pivot (with one tick at 0800 
dipping down to take the stops out before the upward move) that was the time 
to buy.

The market stalled at the previous day's high (one tick below R1), then broke 
through, with a considerable increase in the tick volume, and went on up to R2 
and reversed (creating a 21 month high).  It came off with decreasing tick 
volume, and coasted through R1 and the Pivot.  It then went sharply down 
through S1 - and closed the day as a strong upthrust, like a telegraph pole on 
hill.  That, to all technicians, is a tell-tale sign which heralds a turning 
point for all to see.

Now, for this to happen on the day before the Employment Report, indicated 
very strongly that the market would move down rather than up.  It was sure 
going to move, but which way?   Since report days commonly move a big point or 
more, there was good profit in the offing for the brave, if you took a 
position before the report.  It had to be worth considering going short with a 
buffer of the 20 ticks from the top of the previous day.

I'm bound to say I didn't do it!  On a major report day, it is a gamble 
whatever the charts and the fundamentals look like, but for those with a more 
cavalier approach, it was a good bet.  And as that famous trader said: "You 
can't tell till you bet."

Anyway, as soon as the move had been made, I put up the retracement tool and 
as it came back to exactly the .382 retracement, sold it when it made the 
'double top' on this line.  (As you will appreciate, like the pit, I too 
believe in Fibonacci retracements.  There is nothing very iffy about those 
numbers!).   It then made a 'double bottom' on the 117^20 line - where four 
out of five 5 minute bars of the original move could not penetrate.   The two 
bar reversal looked very solid and if it was only a 'scalp' to the retracement 
line, it was worth it for 10 ticks. 

The market then did, indeed, come back to the retracement line, nearly hit it, 
then hit, then on the third occasion - as one expects with a Fib number - went 
through.   It then halted at the weekly low, but the retracement was well 
within the .382 and it went through on the second attempt.  (Worth noting 
here, that your stop needs to be moved up as you move up the retracement tool) 
 As you know, the market sailed with a strong following wind through the old 
S2  and SI and when it hit the intraday high... well that is enough excitement 
for one day!!

Let me end by saying that I definitely believe the market moves in waves, but 
I question the predictive value in the wave counting.  It is important to know 
that whatever way the market is going, it will, without question retrace (and 
create a wave) but the Fibonacci measurement is much more significant and it 
offers more to me as an accurate tool than anything  Elliott offers.   A 
Fibonacci extension or an Elliott wave extension which one would you put your 
money on?

Good trading all 

Bill