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> Horse racing is fun but you can't place your bet in the "last
furlong" so I prefer the market.
Ha! Me too. And I've used that exact analogy. Sometimes having
your entry stop get hit is like placing your bet on a horse
that's accelerating out of the final turn. Better yet, if that
"horse fades" down the stretch, you can pull up your stop and dump
the bet! Try that at the betting window.
Nice to see you too Bob.
--- On Thu, 6/11/09, RL Scott <rlscott1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: RL Scott <rlscott1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Horse Betting
> To: tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx, omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 9:59 AM
> What has happened to this
> forum? Even Bill Wynne is showing up. Horse
> racing is fun but you can't place your bet in the "last
> furlong" so I prefer
> the market.
>
> Good to "see" you all. Now, if we could only get Mark
> to punch PO's buttons
> that would be fun.
>
> Best regards,
>
> ~Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> "Alex Matulich" <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Horse Betting
>
>
>
> I used to hang out in San Diego, surf in the morning,
> then scan the DRF over coffee and breakfast, and then
> hit the track at Del Mar. We would pay for the cheap
> seats and then sneak into the fancy hat section.
>
> As Borat say: "Very Nice!"
>
> Anyway my "system" was looking in the DRF for workout
> times on longer shots (8-1 +) that were faster or equal
> to the favorites. Usually bet them to place or show.
> Occasionally I bet them to win (say 50-1 odds AND the
> workouts were as good as the favorite). I also favored
> the better jockeys. I actually hit some of these 50-1
> shots and made consistent money over all (I took something
> home on over half the races I bet).
>
> It is like trading. You don't have to an insider, but
> you need to know a niche better than most. And you need to
> be consistent in your method. It's easy to get carried
> away
>
> That said, even in retrospect, I could not see Mine That
> Bird coming. The Mine That Bird story is really one for
> the ages.
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/10/09, Alex Matulich <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Alex Matulich <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Horse Betting
> > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 11:48 AM
> > Mark,
> >
> > You may be interested in the following historical data
> I
> > collected,
> > painstakingly, 9 years ago. See the link below.
> >
> > This is just one month's worth of Daily Racing Form
> > consensus and
> > race results data from September to October 2000, but
> that
> > one month
> > is still a pretty significant collection (nearly
> 6,000
> > races). It's
> > all in one big Excel spreadsheet, ready for you to
> analyze
> > and
> > number crunch any way you want.
> >
> > This was a way for me to learn the Java programming
> > language, but
> > I also hoped to develop something profitable with the
> > results.
> > I wrote a program that downloaded the race schedules,
> the
> > DRF
> > consensus, betting info, and race results,
> automatically
> > every day,
> > parsed all those web pages, performed error checking
> to
> > discard
> > bad horse or race data (DRF pages do contain some
> errors),
> > and
> > combined the results in a spreadsheet. Writing the
> > software was a
> > lot of work (and I haven't used Java since!). I ran
> > this for DRF's
> > 1-month free trial.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Unbelievable how many races happen in a month. There
> > are 5,780
> > data rows in the spreadsheet, one for each race. Each
> > row
> > contains:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date
> > Track ID
> > Number of handicappers involved in the consensus
> scoring
> > Race number
> > Length of the race in yards
> > ...plus for each of the top three scoring horses in
> the
> > consensus:
> > horse name
> > consensus score
> > pole position
> > morning line odds
> > win, place, and show payouts
> >
> > I never managed to do anything useful with it. I
> > offer it to anyon
and hope that if you do
> discover
> > something
> > from this data, that you will share it with me.
> >
> > You can download the spreadsheet from
> >
> > http://unicorn.us.com/alex/drfconsensus.zip (430K
> > zipped, 1.7M unzipped)
> >
> > I hope somebody finds it useful. And before anyone
> > asks, I don't
> > think I have all the software modules anymore. I've
> > changed
> > computers 5 times since then. I do have all the
> > original web pages
> > that the data came from, though.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > P.S. The above message is a copy of a usenet post
> from
> > 2003:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sport.horse-racing.systems/msg/b5fe59c2f9d73fc1
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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