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> Who is going to do the picking? The Gov.?
So far and they picked OIL. They've literally
gone to war for it. While they prevent solar
from leasing public land in order to "protect" the
desert tortoise the oil companies have leases they
don't even bother to drill and are pushing for more
in deep water where a mishap could have extreme
negative global repercussions.
--- On Sat, 7/5/08, PR <10cc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: PR <10cc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: RES: stock to buy- GPRE
> To: "'Omega List'" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 5:00 PM
> From what I have found over the years it is public one would
> have most
> trouble with when trying to get something done.
> Some of the public agrees with something.
> Some of the public dissagrees with it.
> You have peta, the greenies, hollywood, the country, the
> city and
> in-between.
>
> If the Gov. would do whats right and good for all and not
> worry about how
> and who elected them things could get done a little easier.
> That is why a private company or you and a group of
> friends can do more in
> your backyard or garage than anything to do with the public
> can do or want
> to do.
>
> Kind of like on this forum. I would say look at everything
> and put money
> and labor tpwards it all. But many seems to say solar.
> When that would
> actually be last on my list of stuff. So there you go.
>
> We have to look at all and push for all, but pick what we
> can do now and in
> the near future and do it.
> Who is going to do the picking? The Gov.?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Gurke" <rgurke@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: RES: stock to buy- GPRE
>
>
> > Speaking of "think-tanks" ...can you imagine
> something along the lines of
> > a Manhattan Project focusing on alternative and/or
> renewable energy
> > technologies. Does anyone believe that we
> couldn't solve this problem
> > fairly quickly, if we actually had the political will
> and devoted the
> > necessary resources to it...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <marcmiller.themap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 2:03 PM
> > Subject: Fw: RES: stock to buy- GPRE
> >
> >
> >>I agree 100% with Gary.
> >> Right Friggin on- This is EXACTLY what we need to
> do.
> >> This is a very impressive "think-tank"
> here at the omegalist.
> >> US Gov- are you listening?!!
> >> I was in Mexico on vacation, in the city I was
> staying used
> >> SOLAR water heaters on all the rooftops- of course
> it wasn't the climate
> >> of Green Bay, Wisconsin-- but let's see some
> TAX breaks
> >> passed to make this feasable in the areas that can
> support them.
> >> A buddy of mine in California said that he can
> sell electricity back to
> >> the
> >> grid at 90 cents on the dollar, but here where I
> live, a buddy checked
> >> into
> >> solar
> >> and found that he could only selll it for 8-10
> cents on the dollar (back
> >> to
> >> the grid.)
> >> Need some changes made.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gary Fritz"
> <fritz@xxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:39 AM
> >> Subject: Re: RES: stock to buy- GPRE
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 4 Jul 2008 at 21:41, Randy wrote:
> >>> > No matter how much we want or hope for a
> solar , wind alternative
> >>> > energy solution .....it's not going
> to happen . Lump them all
> >>> > together
> >>> > and the most optimistic forecasts are
> 5-10 percent of current
> >>> > consumption.
> >>>
> >>> It doesn't have to be. I did a
> back-of-envelope calculation once to see
> >> how
> >>> much solar energy could be produced on the
> government-owned lands of the
> >>> desert Southwest. It would take an area of
> roughly 40,000 square miles
> >>> to
> >>> produce energy equal to the ENTIRE energy
> budget of the US, assuming
> >>> only 10% efficiency. The US Govt owns 200,000
> square miles of prime
> >>> solar
> >>> real estate in Nevada, Arizona, and New
> Mexico. If they would cede 50k
> >>> or
> >>> 100k of that land to a US Energy Trust, they
> could launch a "man-on-the-
> >>> moon" class of initiative that could make
> the US entirely energy self-
> >>> sufficient, and virtually eliminate our
> dependence on polluting energy
> >>> sources like coal or nuclear.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, there would be environmental impacts in
> the area -- but consider
> >>> the
> >>> environmental and economic impacts of coal
> mining, burning coal or oil,
> >>> disposing of nuclear wastes -- or engaging in
> wars in the Mideast.
> >>>
> >>> Should we try to replace 100% of the US energy
> consumption with solar?
> >>> Probably not, as there are other problems
> involved. But it could
> >>> provide
> >> a
> >>> HUGE percentage of the energy this country
> needs, with a self-built and
> >> self-
> >>> owned source of endless clean energy.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>
> >
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