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What's that in English Mike? :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Barna [mailto:tsda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, 9 December 2007 5:00 PM
To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Scaling out

Some algorithms may auto-determine
size modulation for you. The algorithm
determines the optimum location to adjust
sizing to target a single market or portfolio
utility or fitness function, like
Sharpe, and then autodesigns scaling
and entry tactics together, essentially "reversing" the problem
converging to a stochastic solution and writing the code.
Scaling may be curve fit as easily as entry location,
choice of markets in portfolio, stops, etc.,
so take proper steps to avoid over fit in your models.
Some basic autodesigned scaling model demos at:
http://www.tradingsystemlab.com/flashdemo.aspx
#15 and #11

Sincerely,

Mike Barna
President,
Trading System Lab

"Your struggle to manually write Trading Models is coming to an end."
"TSL is an Algorithm that writes Algorithms."
www.TradingSystemLab.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Pitt" <apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Alex Matulich'" <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'jim f.'" 
<bigbubber@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Scaling out


There is nothing wrong at all with scaling out of or into positions.  But if 
you do such a thing they should be looked at and analysed as separate 
systems, and then run in conjunction as part of a portfolio with appropriate 
position sizing.  The question then becomes which portfolio offers the best 
return/risk :

Portfolio A, B, C, AB, AC, BC or ABC?

Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: unicorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:unicorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Alex Matulich
Sent: Sunday, 9 December 2007 4:00 PM
To: jim f.
Cc: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Scaling out

>with all that said, i would ask if anyone has a simple example of an exit
>for scaling out.

You probably can't find it because it generally isn't a good thing to
do.  This was discussed on this list this past July under the heading
"Bet sizing question: Scaling".  My answer is here:
http://www.purebytes.com/archives/omega/2007/msg00451.html

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