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Tha would assume that by shorting the mutual fund, you would be earning 
the fees and commissions taken out of the net asset values by 
managers... You are probably better off trying to create your own 
spreads from a basket of stocks you think will underperform the 
indices. Maybe test short the top 20-30 holdings of some crap mutual 
fund versus long S&P... 
 
Good luck trading, 
 
Seth 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: cwest <cwest@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: omega-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:00:57 -0600 
Subject: RE: shorting mutual funds 
 
Thanks for the responses. The choices mentioned can't do the job I had 
in 
mind, which I'll briefly explain. Given that one accepts a stance that a 
given Fund will underperform-forgetting about how one arrived at that 
opinion-looking at their historical charts or rather looking at ratio'd 
spreads of their price and relevant indices, positioning for an expected 
divergence ought to have been profitable. So the challenge is to devise 
a 
way to go short particular Fund(s). 
 
I've never bought a Fund-they've never seemed attractive to me-so I 
don't 
know too much about them. Is there a way to obtain a list of their 
holdings 
each night or frequently? 
 
Colin West 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Walter Hooker [mailto:whooker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:49 AM 
To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: shorting mutual funds 
 
Colin, 
 
BEARX is a fund that you buy that shorts the market. 
 
W Hooker 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "cwest" <cwest@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Omega-List'" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:32 PM
Subject: shorting mutual funds
>
> How, if at all, could one short (listed) mutual funds, either
> direcctly
 
 or
 
> virtually.
>
> tia
> Colin West
>
>
 
 
 
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